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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why the fuck would anyone do that?

What is the goal?

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Lets also address the pollution caused by road runoff.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    And all the untreated waste that gets dumped into the rivers as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    That is being addressed 👍🏼

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Make the company liable and they’ll come up with their own way to prevent or mitigate this. Their business model is causing this, it’s their job to fix it.

    Fine them a punitive amount per occurrence. It’s probably not cheap to discover and we probably only find a fraction of them so the cost must consider that. It must also be high enough to either incentivize a fix or fully cover repair.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Check out how Bicing in Barcelona works, problem is already solved there, no need to start fining lime, just change the legislation so that these services need to have physical locking racks where bikes can be both left and retrieved from, that way they can't be stolen and they'll be kept in better condition because they aren't being pinched constantly.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    We had same thing in Greece but with scooters. People used to steal them and throw them in the sea. Crazy.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Bikes like that promote some of the worst aspects of bicycle culture - inexperienced riders doing high speed with zero regard for where they park once the ride is over. Obviously the bikes shouldn't be tossed in the water, the entire business model should be tossed out.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    When I was a kid, if I wanted to ride to school, my school required that I pass a cycling proficiency test, which taught me about road laws and where and how I was supposed to position my bike on the road to stay safe.

    I'd love to see a cycling and small electric vehicle proficiency course be part of our school curriculum.

    There are always going to be people that ignore the rules of the road (I nearly got hit by a car today who didn't give way to the right on a roundabout, I was watching him, he didn't even look!), but I don't see how adding this in schools could cause harm.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Install 360° cameras, film those assholes and make them pay for retrieval.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Sounds nice until you think about the implications for everyone that doesn't vandalize or destroy these bikes. I'm most certainly not going to rent one if it has 360° surveillance capabilities.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    The recording nedds to be saved only when the accelerometer detects the bike being thrown.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes totally. I would trust any company to always do this the right way. And there would never be an incident where some footage gets leaked, or passed around the office. "Oops there must have been a malfunction".

    Yes like Amazon AND Google haven't been caught saving private conversations that their voice assistants recorded totally unintentionally even though they weren't triggered. They did totally say "sorry" and won't do it again, ever. Right? Right?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sure, if you live in a shithole country like the US or a wanna-be-shithile country like the UK, companies can just trample you privacy. But in the EU, privacy is protected and you can easily introduce legislation that any non-government surveillance needs to be set up in a way that makes automatic permanent surveillance impossible.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I live in the EU. The violations of Google and Amazon I mentioned also happened in the EU. Feel free to look up the repercussions on those. Having rules is irrelevant if there is no way to actually enforce them, or at least verify them. It would be doable (maybe not quite "easy") to have that verifiable, but there is no system or law in place for it as it stands right now.

    You can trust them companies that would put surveillance equipment like that in their stuff to not abuse it, that's your call. I just won't use it. In quite a few EU countries this wouldn't be allowed anyway, btw. At least not with current laws in regards to video recording in and around traffic. For example dash cams are still not fully legal in Germany, and only very limited recording (and storing) of footage is permitted.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The problem is it's done by folk that don't pay and probably covering their face. The fact the company thinks it's cheaper to lose bikes than pay rent for land for stations to secure the bikes between customers is the problem. They don't care.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    The modern bikes need an account with valid fiscal info to unlock. There is no way to "not pay".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah there is, they can be bump started really easily, you literally just lift the rear wheel then start moving forward, then put the wheel back down and jump on, I've seen kids do it, it takes zero skill. In the meadows these days I hear a lime alarm pretty much every day.

    This is a problem that's already been solved, check out bicing in Barcelona and how that works. This really is a problem of legislation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    There absolutely is, people break the disabling mechanism. I've had two go past me today with the obvious clack-clack-clack-clack of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Check out how bicing in Barcelona works, no cameras and surveillance, but you literally cannot retrieve a bike without an account and the app because they are physically locked in racks. It's a brilliant system and ours can be easily fixed with a little legislation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Drago? Drago? Did you get away safely from that Lime Lawyer?

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    But as the article says, it's the stolen bikes that are dumped, not the legitimately hired ones.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Imo the article is not good in defining theft here, these bikes lie all around the city and my guess is that when they are hard to reach (like in a river) the company just counts them as stollen.

    This is just a company with a very shit work model avoiding responsibility for polluting the environment.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As someone that lives in a part of a city where Lime doesn't operate, I see people on stolen bikes all the time. The bikes make a clicking sound to try and annoy the thieves, but the thieves don't care.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I agree it is the same here. What I mean is that if you ride it without paying and then leave it in one of the designated locations or near one of them and there is no permanent damage to the bike the company (I think) will not count it as stolen, will recharge it and keep using it.

    So in that sense stolen are only the ones that are impossible to recover.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It feels like the only sustainable way to make this work is for Lime to foot the bill for all the council time they take up. If they cannot make that work financially then their business model is unsustainable. I can't understand why our government and councils are so slow on this.

    They absolutely should have to rent parking space from the public and insist their users use them as well, in my opinion. I'm sick of having to move all the lime bikes out of the bike racks which they don't even need. Bananas!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Fine the scooter company for each one found.

    They have GPS, they should be retrieving them when they are dumped like that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    A bike hire scheme was cancelled in a UK city after mindless vandalism and theft. When we visited we found the scheme really useful, allowing us to visit by train and then move around the whole city by bike.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67646004

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