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[–] 176 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Have Win 10 and was a Windows die hard since I was a kid.

Been running Linux on another drive as my default boot for a year and a half in anticipation of this horseshit and was only hesitant to delete Win because my Fanatec sim racing hardware wasn't supported on Linux.

Welp, turns out hid-fanatecff is a thing. Installed the kernel driver and boom, working Fanatec peripherals. Even my Moza shifter is plug-and-play.

Bye bye Microsoft.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is there any use for a HP Reverb G2 on linux?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yeah, peripherals lol. All my sim stuff is working brilliantly in Linux, however I still have some audio production stuff I need Windows for. Unfortunately, due to the need for minimal hardware latency and all that, Wine and VMs aren't an option. Also a lack of drivers for some midi devices sucks.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Really? I run my home studio in Nobara Linux without any latency issues. I use Reaper as my DAW. Are you using yabridge?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah I have tried it, but didn't have luck unless I was driverless and that meant losing velocity. Maybe I configured wrong, it was kind of confusing but the internet said it was facing the same issues as me. Mainly this was for Roland stuff.

    I was going to just get a laptop for Windows to record onto next to instruments and then transfer, but I'd rather just be able to plug into the DAW.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's really strange. I have an M-Audio 60ish key and a smaller Novation Nocturn MIDI keyboard as well as a Roland electric drum kit and have no issues doing anything over MIDI with them on Linux.

    Maybe its worth another try? I don't need drivers for any of that stuff.

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  • [–] 282 points 1 year ago (31 children)

    I will continue to enjoy my incredibly straightforward and to the point Linux desktop that’s somehow gained a new AI-free feature by doing nothing.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    Would you be able to point me toward a good thread about "beginner-friendly" distros that works well with games?

    I honestly have no idea what to trust when it comes to this

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Pop!_os worked fine for me out of the box. The UI is a little mac-like (dock on bottom, spotlight like search when you hit the super key) by default.

    Steam just works. Heroic launcher just works. It's simple.

    I've also used mint, but had slightly less luck with its install working out of the box. All issues fixed eventually but there was some head scratching.

    Linux nerds tend to have opinions and it's easy to lose sight of what it's like as a beginner.

    But ultimately it's pretty easy to switch distributions. They're all free.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Don't go onto specialized distro. Just use the main ones like Mint (which is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian). I would say that Debian is the best one, but it needs to read some docs if you have a Nvidia Graphic card (but if not, it should be easy and super stable). Bazzite, Nobara, etc, are based on distro that are quickly changing (Fedora or Arch), which are really nice in their own way, but as a beginner, you need stability first!

    Try this : https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=325 It is Linux Mint, but directly based on Debian instead of Ubuntu!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't agree that Debian is a good choice for a gamer - it sacrifices performance and features for stability, which is not ideal for gamers, who probably want to run the newest drivers and featuresets. Don't get me wrong, I really like Debian, but as an server os, not for a gaming machine. Something based on Arch or Fedora is a lot better for the rapidly changing environment we are talking about, they can adapt much quicker than Debian.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I installed Mint a week ago and it has played all of the 13 games I tried without any effort from me, except one which ProtonDB told me to change the compatibility mode in the steam properties then it worked great.

    I would say see the ProtonDB entries for some games you like to set your expectations.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Pop_OS! and Bazzite were the first two I tried when I made the switch. They were advertised as working right out of the box, which they did not for me.

    When I was trying Nobara, I learned I had to run something in the command line to get gamemode to work properly with Steam. Ever since then, Nobara has worked for my gaming needs.

    A few tweaks are needed here and there, but it's literally copy and paste from protondb.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Distribution are basically a bunch of presets, nobara is just fedora with a few gaming defaults, bazzite is immutable fedora, popos is ubuntu... If you can pinpoint the problem you probably could've fixed it in both bazzite and popos without moving around; there's thousands of different pc configurations so ymmv across distros.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Like others said, bazzite and pop os, though I've never used either. I use mint and never had a problem.

    Though it should be pointed out that some MP games that use a kernel level anti cheat can't be played (battlefield 6 for instance).

    But I also wanted to mention, you can run Linux from a USB flash drive. So of you want to try out one of them without actually installing it, you easily can. If you don't like it you don't install. If you do, then you go for the full install. Easy non committal trial so to speak.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I Will get down votes but none works well, most work fine given you spend enough time tinkering. Pirated games are a waste of time to get running and there will be some distros that already come with stuff set up to be " plug and play ", but it never is.

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  • That’s a bit like asking, “Can you point me toward a beginner friendly car that has air conditioning and a radio?” You’re going to get 100 different answers because there are a hundred different distros that do all the things. The differences between them are small and not really of interest to a new user.

    So I’ll give you a general rundown of the names you’ll probably see:

    • Ubuntu: The classic recommended option and the most used worldwide. Though they’re corporate run and occasionally makes weird decisions that piss off the linux community, so you won’t see it mentioned as much as it was 10 years ago.
    • Kubuntu: An Ubuntu flavor with a very customizable Windows-like desktop that should feel very comfortable for new users.
    • Linux Mint: Essentially decorporatized Ubuntu with their own custom Windows-like desktop. It’s often the go-to recommendation to new users now, though I’ve personally never tried it.
    • Pop!_OS: Basically Ubuntu with NVIDIA drivers enabled by default, so it positions itself as a gaming distro.
    • Zorin: Another Ubuntu clone that tries to look as much like Windows as possible for new users.
    • Fedora: A more frequently updated distro, which is appealing to those with newer hardware. A little less straightforward for new users but still not super challenging.
    • Nobara: Pop!_OS except for Fedora.
    • Bazzite: An immutable Fedora distro (meaning you can’t edit the underlying filesystem,) making it behave more like a consoles. Honestly, immutable distros are a niche in linux so you should probably avoid it as a new user, but you’ll see it listed as it has some diehard fans.
    • Arch: A DIY distro for enthusiasts and tinkerers with very frequent updates, so good for newer hardware.

    But again, they’re all like 95% the same as each other. I’d just pick between Kubuntu or Mint, maybe Pop!_OS if you don’t feel like going into a menu and enabling NVIDIA drivers.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Then you install Docker because may Linux apps come distributed only as Docker images and find out that Docker has its own AI built in called Gordon.

    Then Lemmy dogpiles me for, "What do you expect for running corporate software."

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I use it and I have not encountered this. You’re referring to the desktop GUI maybe?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yes, Docker Desktop which if you follow the guide for Network Proxy Manager and other docker apps you end up installing. You'd have to already know that Docker Desktop has AI to avoid it and find a work around install.

    If the default is getting Docker AI when you install popular apps in Linux, at that point it's not different from knowing that the default is getting Copilot in Windows and then following online guides to remove it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I assume you mean Nginx Proxy Manager? I'm surprised that you would even run that on a desktop with a GUI, seems far more fit for a headless system. Of course, nothing stops you - it's your system.

    As a general note I'd recommend docker CLI / compose, most applications will assume you're using that and have instructions tailored for it (which is helpful if you're new to docker).

    To be honest I didn't even know docker had a desktop app for Linux, I've only seen folks use it on Windows and macOS.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm surprised that you would even run that on a desktop with a GUI,

    ???

    The install guide says you need docker compose and links to the docker compose install guide. The link provided for docker compose installs docker desktop. Docker Desktop is a program that shows your running Dockers and allows you to start and stop them.

    But fuck me for being a simple man that Read the Fucking Manual and followed the directions provided.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    No need to be so hostile.

    Installing docker desktop is fine but if you are on Linux and in any way comfortable using the command line I'd definitely run without the desktop part. Just docker and the composer addon is enough.

    That nginx proxy manager recommends desktop for Linux environments which most of the time don't even have a GUI is a bit bizar tbh.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    No need to be so hostile.

    It's frustratingly hypocritical that Linux users rightfully dunk on Microsoft for it's AI yet defend Linux platforms despite the AI.

    When it's the default in Windows, Microsoft is evil. When it's the default in Docker, you should know better and figure out how to install it despite the official online documentation telling you to install Docker Desktop to get Docker compose installed.

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  • [–] 115 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Ok, guys. I'm reading some of these replies which are saying the amount of outrage is out of proportion. I have to disagree with that. I don't want an AI running on my PC that is monitoring and learning about my shit. I didn't want that data saved even locally, let alone the monetization of that data. I don't want to be paying for power of a device that is turning me into someone else's paycheck.

    Can you turn it off? I believe you can. But I also believe that doing it manually would be incredibly annoying since that does go with a lot of past practice. I also get it would reactivate itself after major updates, like how Edge keeps reinstalling.

    Are there other solutions to my Microsoft issues, yes. Chris Titus Tech comes to mind.

    But overall, the Windows ecosystem does not feel right to me anymore. Could other people still use it, yes. Am I going to stop them, not intentionally. But my Arch gaming PC runs games better than the same machine running Windows. I've always entertained the idea of a full switch, still have a Windows 11 dual boot and haven't officially done it yet, but with this the moment feels right. At least for me, hopefully you can understand that.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I had dual boot with win10 for a while, but when they had that ‘bug’ that was wiping peoples linux partition I dropped Windows completely. As dar as I’m concerned Linux and other FOSS in general has reached a point where it meets the majority of my needs. Same goes for local storage vs needing anything through the cloud or streeaming.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Every hang up I had eventually got solved. Except with modding games, I sorely miss Vortex or Mod Organizer and there's no alternatives I know of besides doing it all manually.

    That wasn't a showstopper for me though. VR, HDR, Video Games were. These three are solved well enough for my tastes this year to drop my dual boot.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fortunately on the modding front, the community's already been cooking:

    OSS Nexus Mods loader article

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I‘m using it for Stardew Valley and it works pretty well. Still early days and a bit clunky to use though. Not any power user features to speak of but I guess that isn’t their target userbase for a mod manager.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Vortex works on linux though, This is the guide I used.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nexus Mod Manager is working fine under Linux. It's still under development, but i've been modding Cyberpunk 2077 to hell and back with it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    You're stretching it to say that when the Linux version has extremely limited game support.

    It's literally just CP2077 and Stardew Valley.

    https://nexus-mods.github.io/NexusMods.App/users/games/

    Researching more, I found LIMO:

    https://github.com/limo-app/limo

    And some more ideas here:

    https://www.old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1k9zfp8/only_obstacle_left_for_me_to_figure_out_nexus_mods/

    Hopefully LIMO works because the other ideas look like a brittle PITA.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    well, next up is bethesda games support, and development of the app is pretty fast, so i would expect a release supporting skyrim this year. You're right that it's pretty barebones now, but i wanted to say that we linux users will finally have a mod manager on par with the windows side of things, which is pretty awesome!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I think we have a bit of a degree of "Yep, that's Microsoft alright" mood as a whole because it's accepted that things are going to get worse for their users perpetually, so I personally stopped giving a shit because I already left before win10 EOL anyway. I'm guessing there's a similar mood among others who already saw the writing on the wall.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The cool part is that 100% of the “AI features” they’re advertising are either not running locally or not AI at all

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I think that if someone (even ai) is analyzing my documents, then they are bypassing my permissions and looking despite the fact that it is supposed to be private. Basically if ai is looking at my files, I don't care if it isn't running locally, it is bypassing my permissions to my automated stock trading algorithms. I know security isn't exactly Windows strength anyways, but accessing my files without my consent or knowledge is a nail in the coffin for me. Granted, you can disable it, I might point you in the direction of winutil by Chris Titus, but I would bet money that a Windows update will re enable it without consent or permission.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    If you don't need to do 3D work, you can still use a virtual machine with kvm, it is really fast! (then ditch Windows :) )

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    If you mean CAD, I found that FreeCAD works nicely as a parametric 3D modeler with some nice macros and addons, with the perk of also running on Linux

    E: added info

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm not too into 3d modelling stuff myself, but I understand Blender is pretty good, too.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'd agree that blender is very good. I find that it would be more suited to static stuff and renderings, as well as animations. FreeCAD is more like the commercial CAD software you'd find (Fusion 360, Solidworks).

    On the topic of blender, It has some amazing features, and I am amazed at what people do with it (I also find it a bit tricky, but I probably just need to put a few more hours into learning)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, to clarify I didn't mean Blender as an alternative but that there are decent options for another kind of 3d work in addition to CAD stuff. FreeCAD for design stuff, Blender for making pretty things (or ugly things if that's what you're into), Vulkan/gcc for real time 3d stuff if you like working close to the metal, Godot for real time 3d stuff if you want to do it from a higher level.

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    [–] 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I work in IT and far be it for me to tell you what OS to use on your own computer.

    The only thing I want to die right now, is the AI bubble. Just pop already. Holy fuck what a worthless endeavor this has been.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    +1000. one of my coworkers keeps thinking he's saving time with AI-generated code but what he's really doing is pushing the thinking downstream when we have to pick apart the absolute garbage that gets generated.

    PR feedback gets turned into AI prompts and the cycle continues. It's exhausting

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, it's BS. I scrutinize PRs to let peers realize that it's often not worth the time when they have to redo basically everything the agent wrote in the first place. There's been some truly lazy PRs...

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Finally got my last PC switched off Windows. It feels good.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago

    Don’t downgrade to Windows 11, update to Linux

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