That's a good point. The internet collapse also helps this new age of " information capitalism" to spread even further: any information that you may seek will be behind a paywall or intermediate by an AI that you have to pay a subscription to access. In fact, that's the best case scenario for all these AI companies: to kill free and reliable information.

This is not a conspiracy to destroy the internet. This is a tragedy of the commons. It doesn't take many bad agents to ruin it for everyone. AI slop is so cheap and has the potential to make profit, so it's a no brainer if you don't have a better way to make money.

The only reason the AI companies are crying is because now they need humans in the loop somehow. They'll need to source data from only known and verified real-person sources (like reputable news sites, magazines, personal blogs, and podcasts), manually verify data is not slop, and/or pay people to generate data for them.

Apart from being hit with what seemed like random ban hammers, that was one of the reasons I left Reddit.

It just seems so “the same”. Every comment chain is filled with the same predictable comments and they’re all predictably commenting on the same predictable content.

I hear lots of Lemmy newbies saying they stay on Reddit because of the user base in their niche communities. I hope those same people post or comment here a little bit in their niche instances before buggering off back to the black hole of bots.

I love that I can spot individual users again without tagging them.

I love the guy who uses that ye olde symbol instead of typing the letters “th”

This place is awesome because of the limited user base IMO. Very rarely have I been met with negativity here.

Yep. That about sums it up. It's a bit worse than that though, because they can also actively poison the AI and make it express more positive right wing sentiments too. For now that's still a bit tricky, because the AI goes mecha-Hitler, but don't worry, they will fix that glitch in the coming months.

It doesn't even matter if it does a poor job. I see people scrolling endlessly, 24/7, they're already zombified. The amount of people who can filter the bullshit or think critically about what they are fed online are in an extreme minority. It doesn't matter for the ruling class if there's some single digit percent of the population that don't buy it, fooling most people most of the time is absolutely enough to rule absolutely.

Anyone else inhabiting a very dark mindspace lately? We should start a club.

Llama being the LLM corrected to is amazing

Why do you think they store and analyze everything you do on your computer, like when you use Windows? "Would you like a permanent spell checker that you can't turn off make sure anything you write is spelled correctly? No? Too bad, go use Linux. Oh shit sorry, it's in the hardware now, you can opt out if you want, but not really, we are going to read everything you write on your computer and your phone and analyze every conversation you have on your phone and it's all going to be processed and then eventually sold for scraps after we've extracted what we want from it".

That's where, and it's been happening for way over a decade already.

I think it's the greatest sunk cost fallacy the world has yet seen.

"We've poured trillions of dollars into this, and convinced a bunch of people it's going to fundamentally transform humanity, so it MUST be a good idea!"

None of them want to be the first to admit that it was a bad bet.

My dude, YouTube used to not have ads

"You don't really know what it is you have until it's gone. Gone...gone."

People say that early internet was like the wild west, and I agree. And I feel like a weathered old cowboy who saw my homestead on the frontier get surrounded by buildings, cars, industries, smog, noise, and the never ending growth of the population.

Capitalism fucked us all, and it keeps fucking us, and it will kill us.

In the early days, there were a lot of porn ads before ad blockers came along. There’s a nice sweet spot somewhere between that invention and the internet of today.

I was there when people when people were sending around Goatse pics and all our info came from Alta Vista.

It was pretty sweet, apart from the prolapse.

I lived through the transition from BBSes to the publicly available internet. I had to go in person to pick up the equipment and software on a floppy.

The first thing I found was the Church of the Subgenius which I found hilarious.

Lemmy is an exception to the rule.

Beep boop

It's pretty sad, creepy and hopeless, but this is exactly how I have been feeling lately with YouTube videos. If it's made post GPT, I am not inclined to watch it unless it's a channel I know has a stated anti-AI position, because at least then I know I'm getting human input. They are building up Plato's cave around us stone by stone, we can't even move out of the way, we are getting imprisoned, and the few of us who see it happening and shout are being drowned out by the noise of the billions around us who happily hum along.

The system itself needs to come down, with violence, or we won't make it, none of us, and honestly even if it does, I am not sure we are going to survive. I feel like I'm playing the fiddle on the Titanic.

The 80s and 90s have some of my favorite anime, movies, and tv shows anyway. I can't really think of any recent masterpeices aside from Interstellar and The Martian.

Weird that third party apps, made by corporate entities, are needed for this. They're public libraries funded with public money, it should be one unified backend with libre applications.

You likely need to physically go to the library and prove your residency but yes. Then you can do the above.

My username isn't random coincidence.

Not just precious shareholders, it's a massive bubble that will impact the economy and peoples retirement when it bursts. They keep dumping more money into AI even though there are no returns.

This is said as though it isn't an immensely expensive endeavour to run these things and the only reason they're this prevalent right now is the overspeculation and starved growth of US tech companies.

Eventually is doing some heavy lifting. The costs of these data centers and the power plants to run them has to come from somewhere.

I don't know if or when the chickens come home to roost, but it could go badly for the US and China to find out their spent trillions to make a million versions of AI shrimp Jesus.

Calling Windows a distro, while technically true, feels offensive