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[–] 148 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Unmarked vehicle. Masked. Only 2 of them, one not in uniform. Yeah, this isn't a lawful arrest. This is a kidnapping.

You are on the wrong side of history, and nobody will remember you. You will be forgotten as the pigs you are.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I don't even think that was the real ICE. ICE carries M16s or M4s, not sure, but between the two of them you don't see a single weapon? This is absolutely an unlawful kidnapping. And we're they driving a Nissan? No fucking way ice rolls out with only two guys in a Nissan.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    They had a black Subaru Crosstrek in the video of when the crashed into 2 brothers in a truck, then arrested them.

    They’re using rental cars not to try and blend in. Be aware of this, but still do what you can to stop kidnappings.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago

    Idk if anyone will find this more useful than I, but the Nissan's VIN is 5N1BT3BB1SC775713

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Why did no one take any of the infinite opportunities to take the green dude’s mask off from behind? He’s definitely bolting if that happens, real ICE or not. And with rulings from judges against wearing them, I’d think you have decent legal standing even in the slim chance something comes of it.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    My thoughts exactly. You want them to leave quickly? Rip off their mask and run away. When their faces start circulating and later retribution can be delivered, then you'll see progress.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Exactly. Lots of people think this probably wasn’t legit ICE anyway, not that any is legit.

    As much as I may want to assault them, I’m not going to pretend I’m actually brave enough. But I would 100% risk pulling that mask off while he’s riding the victim like a horse.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    TBF, let them pull their own mask down for you. Creatively and rapidly apply a volume of water atop their heads and all of a sudden: that mask is an instant waterboarding cosplay.

    Ain't nobody breathing through freshly wetted fabric. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    Shit, make it any liquid (coffee, juice, wiper fluid, piss, etc) and they're gonna be sticky/oily/stinky/gross on top of wet, too.

    You're welcome. 😘

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The chances one would have to do that would likely be while they're attempting to ride an innocent like a horsey. Best to avoid dousing unintended recipients with anything gross in that case, although I'm sure they'd be somewhat relieved to be free, albeit covered in piss.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    They were walking the line of getting shot. I'm strong enough to have grabbed them by the belt and neck collar and tossed them to the side, but reaching for the belt would look like reaching for the gun.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    And nobody keyed that ICE rental car?

    Hmmm...

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I would have snipped at least one valve stem with the pliers I usually have in my car. And I would have been sorely tempted to pull one of those pudgy Nazis off that poor dude.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    Easier to get the mask wet from a safe distance. Considering how long this clusterfuck sideshow went on, any one of those bystanders could've pissed into an empty soda bottle or something to dump on the pigs' heads/squeeze into their mouths... Watch 'em scramble and scurry then!

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    ?

    That was ice?

    I saw two criminals assaulting a random innocent person and trying to kidnap him. Assault service of course provided by the "I wanna have the Nobel Peace Prize" president

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That was amazing! I cheered out loud when I saw them give up!!!!

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Holy shit, those were the sketchiest-looking, least-trained, pudgiest, definitely-not-trained, mother-fuckiest, federal agents I've ever seen! Definitely not two racist, assholes from bumfucktucky recruited in the last 6 weeks to drive around in a rental car harassing brown people!

    Jesus christ

    Fuck ICE

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The guy the arrested was fat too, but clearly he actually fucking worked in his life.

    He was able to resist those pieces of shit until they gave up.

    No one attacked them and just heckled the shit out of them. Couldn't subdue one man between the two of them, then ran away when the realized the world still thinks they are pieces of shit.

    They looked like some sort of local chapter militiamen dipshits. Fucking meal team 6, wannabe warriors that probably even get turned down by their own hands.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Mall cops have better handcuffing skills than these chucklefucks. Do they literally have zero training?

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    [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Suggestion. If you see something like this happening, there's enough people in ICE's face and no one's in the car, cut the valve stems. They're made of fairly soft rubber. If they do drag their victim in, they won't get far. Hell, if you see an ICE car parked somewhere, prop a nail under the tire so it punches as they leave.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not an American but thinking to go back to my childhood and these are the fuckers you would 100% know live in your neighborhood and you would slash their tires. It's illegal and it's petty but it felt so good.doing it. Hell even just key their car is worthwhile.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    ACAB is ACAB the world around, but these fuckers aren't even locals. It's not uncommon for authoritarians to use non locals to enforce their bullshit because locals are more likely to side with their neighbors at a certain point.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    Get cancer, Nazis.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Shocked that nobody stole the car, or fucking kicked one of those Nazis in the face.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Americans are too cowardly to throw a punch to save their country.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    why is it always a lemmy.ca user begging Americans to fight?

    don't you have your own country to fuck up?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Because we’ve been telling you for decades this was exactly the path you were on, and now, because instead of doing something about it and instead getting belligerent and shitty and responding EXACTLY the way you’re responding now, your completely avoidable fuckups and subsequent inaction is directly threatening the rest of us.

    Nothing more American than endlessly congratulating yourselves on being the center of the universe and then disingenuously suggesting everyone else should just ignore the threat you pose and mind our own business.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    that's nice. I'm so happy that Canadians feel free enough to follow US politics.

    can't say the same though. I really can't focus on more than one shithole country.

    all I know about Canada is

    1. hockey
    2. maple syrup
    3. lebatt
    4. moose
    5. sorry

    well, that and the fact that Canada is in the same place the US was in 2016. maybe you should pay closer attention to your own shithole country before you start telling my shithole country how to act eh?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    There’s that damn-near scripted American response we’ve all heard for decades. It’s always cute to see how you try to frame not knowing things as some kind of a flex.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    it's almost as if I'm not claiming to be an opinionated prick about things I know nothing about because I am too busy dealing with my own shit.

    sad that you can't say the same.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Cool. When they’re putting you in an unmarked van you can comfort yourself with the memory of really feeling superior to some opinionated prick on the internet who suggested you do something to prevent it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    whether I do or don't isn't really up to you now is it?

    How I decide to deal with things going on in my country are up me. You know...like freedom of choice.

    I don't get why it's so fucking important to you how Americans deal with this. why do you want us to become violent? it's almost as if you know that's what they want and are compelling Americans to behave violently to escalate the situation....

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Really wish they would've censored the good Samaritans' faces.

    Amazing to see this but I would not want to be caught on video interfering.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Why is someone with clearly zero training or physical ability allowed to wear the word "POLICE" like that?

    Jeeeesus, spent all that time going at it like a couple walruses on a beach and didn't even get the guy.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They have hired the fucking bottom basement, ignorant, fascist wannabe, dumb asses.

    So basically Trump supporters.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If they really had the law why would they have given up?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    They were afraid that real cops would show up and figure out that they're not really ICE. There's no fucking way ICE operates a Nissan Rogue.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    🔥🔥🔥

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Fucking Proud Boys cos playing as ICE. These fuckers should be kidnapped instead.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I'd like to see how putting a bullet in masked kidnappers who are not in police uniform and refuse to show badge numbers holds up or not in court. Like how is anyone going to know the difference? It's just self defense. Genuinely curious - is there precedent for that?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is it legal to murder kidnappers in the USA as a bystander?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Well, the Derossett case in 2019 confirmed that you can shoot plainclothes police who don't identify themselves if they're kidnapping someone from your home. Presumably that would extend to yourself too. Outside your property, I dunno. But as a bystander, there is tons of legal precedent that you can kill someone in the act of committing an armed robbery or some other forcible felony even if it's not directed at you, and that killing is not a crime. Murder, rape, and kidnapping also fall into this forcible felony category.

    My best guess is a lower court would correctly conclude with a not guilty verdict, and it would keep getting appealed with a fast track to reaching the Supreme Court because ICE are a gang of losers. And then it depends on the can of worms that the Supreme Court is willing to open to appease their daddy.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    There's no way that was ICE. NO US organization has ever bought a foreign vehicle for official use.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Rentals and it is actually legal for them to obtain other vehicle types. It's always just a form away.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Who's renting to these guys? And how soon can we boycott them?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Usually government rentals are done through a single servicer contracted by the government that matches you with a rental company or they can be directly rented with a government credit card.

    The issue here is it's basically every car rental place and there's not really a way for the rental place to check what branch of the government it is. It could be ICE, it could be the department of state, the national park service. So basically you would have to boycott every rental agency that rents to the government regardless of agency and that is effectively all of them

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    oh man at 0:50 I wanted nothing more than to see somebody walk up behind that nazi bitch with steel toes and just fucking kick him in the nuts as hard as they could

    what I don't understand is how we haven't seen terrorists like this get sucker punched from behind or something

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Simple enough, people are scared, and rightfully so. These fucks will not respond to being attacked by retreating or attacking back, they'll start shooting to kill, both the attacker, and anyone they think might be even tangentially related.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Everyone in the video did really well - hinder them but don't touch them, it's assault to touch them, but if they slam into your body because they weren't paying attention, well that's on them. If you form a moving wall around them, they feel threatened. Honk and shout and video and they feel seen. This is how we fight back.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yea, I was as frustrated as hell just watching it. The self control those on the ground had was unbelievable. And, that also shows others how to win. The thugs abducting people don't have that control. They are scared little people given a power they cannot control.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    It's also a prime example of why I stay the fuck away from situations like this and protests, don't know if I could control my more violent instincts. Seeing folks distressed and being dragged around like that would probably trigger me a bit too much, then you have violent sociopathic Vaultdweller who care about nothing more than inflicting sadistic pain on his foes. Frankly speaking these folks are better than I ever will be.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why are you letting this happen in your country?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    LOL because ICE has been operating that way since at least 30 years, this didn't start overnight. If you didn't want a quasi-military force with no-warrant arrest powers, the time to complain was in the '90s.

    Or you can blame Russia. That always works.

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