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framework doesn't rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/32868516

Show transcriptScreenshot of a Mastodon toot by @ebassi@mastodon.social:

The whole open source community loves Milkshake Laptops, a lovely laptop company that has ethical values! 5 seconds later We regret to inform you the laptop company stans fascists

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[–] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For fuck's sake, why can't we have nice things?

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    • [–] 54 points 1 year ago

    Which is why you should never think for profit companies are your friend, ethical, worth simping for or let them become part of your identity.

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  • [–] [S] 80 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    i’ve linked to more context in the original post

    but the TL;DR is:

    • framework has started to financially support open-source project
    • among those projects are hyprland and omarchy, both having ties to the far-right (hyprland’s community is a toxic nazi bar and omarchy is maintained by a loud and proud racist)
    • people were understandably upset at framework for this
    • framework’s response was "nooo you guys, we are apolitical! we are trying to make a big tent! and that includes fascists too, stop being meanies!"
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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Overreaction is the only tool that works to stop enshittification before it starts.

    Lean on Framework. Insist they vet projects before giving them money. There's nothing here that can't be undone.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    There's nothing here that can't be undone.

    I firmly disagree. Anyone who doesn't actually know what framework is, will see them via a google search on the laptop in passing interest. Anyone who comes across a post like this when researching isn't going to continue further to see if they got better, just like people who make these posts aren't going to go back and change their comments saying otherwise.

    Additionally, It's optimistic to say that they should vet projects before giving them money but, chances are this is going to just dissuade them from giving money to projects in the future.

    But this is also assuming this actually takes off, Lemmy has been the only area I've even seen the complaints about framework

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's not one comment from hyperland, it's an harasement campain that led them to be baned from freedesktop.org and rightfully so.

    And the blog post you liked is a rant that there not enough white people in london while supporting the tommy robinson march ( a nazi event ).

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You sure seem to be defending it a lot though.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why am I not surprised you think that one post is the only issue.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sure, here's a quote of a comment I made on the other post:

    They said a hint of the kind of person, you took that to nazi. There is a lot more up on DHH's blog... including complaining about being called a nazi, btw.

    Because, you know.... he's a nazi. Even that "wahhhh" post is just full of nazi talking points.

    Edit: Just to be clear, this is not the only example.

    https://world.hey.com/dhh/words-are-not-violence-c751f14f

    https://world.hey.com/dhh/national-pride-f7aa1e92

    https://world.hey.com/dhh/it-s-beginning-to-feel-like-the-80s-in-america-again-68c2708e

    https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-parental-dead-end-of-consent-morality-e4e8a8ee

    I really don't understand how anyone can say he isn't what he is - a nazi.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Overreaction is the only tool that works to stop enshittification before it starts.

    Overreacting can undermine your cause. I don't see how reacting accordingly cannot "stop enshittification before it starts".

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    • [–] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Sooo... I guess I was outta the loop pretty hard. I just spun up Omarchy on account of all the hype surrounding it, and had just enough time with it to fall in love with the workflow before stumbling on this post.

    So does anyone have a recommendation for a good tiling window manager that isn't created by racists, transphobes, mysogonists, or any other kind of bigots? Or is this just a... time to run back to base Arch with KDE sorta day?

    Edit: And if you are going to inform me that Arch or KDE is run by or support bigots... can you wait until the weekend? Please?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I like sway. It doesn't get in the way and I don't really need the eyecandy (and there's als sway-fx).

    Then, you can create your own workflow with dmenu/rofi (or even use walker, like Omarchy).

    Also: check out Bread on Linux's videos. She's so wholesome and chill while keeping the linux spirit real.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    If you do end up back on KDE, Khronkite is a great kwin script for dynamic tiling windows. Not quite as good as Hyprland.

    I've played briefly with river but it's a lot less dynamic (at least visually). I haven't found anything that feels as good as Hyprland.

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    • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is the same Framework that makes the modular laptops?

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