Multiple people have been shot at the Dallas ICE field office, according to a law enforcement source.

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[–] 139 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Three people were shot at the Dallas Immigration and Customs Enforcement field office on Wednesday morning, according to acting ICE Director Todd Lyons.

The shooter is "down" from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, Lyons said in an interview on CNN.

That’s the whole article.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago*

    The victims were not immediately clear but Lyons said that "all ICE agents and officers at [the] location are accounted for right now."

    This is also notable!

    Because I assumed the narrative was that the shooter was targeting ICE agents.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Updated. 2 dead, 1 wounded. All were detainees. Shots were fired blindly at a building and a van. Detainees were in the van.

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  • [+] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    The shooter was an imbecile regardless.

    Based on other reporting, sounds like it's as much likely he thought it would be 'funny' to set the world on fire a bit rather than standing for any particular ideology. Which seems to be a very difficult problem as the usual strategies fall apart since the individuals just jump to an extremist action without any particularly certain indicators beforehand.

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  • [–] 136 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Shooter appears to have been targeting kidnapped immigrants, not ICE. But sure, the violence against ICE agents has to stop. Violence against brown people, however? Totally fine.

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    he appears to have shot the van they were in

    If that's the case, the ICE agents would be in the front of the van and the detainees would have been in the back. So how do the detainees get shot but the ICE agents are fine if the shooter was targeting agents?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Sounds like he was shooting up the general area, and the van included. Maybe not even thinking about it and could have been shooting the back of a van, for all I know.

    Given the background of the shooter, I don't think he was thinking too much about the nuanced strategy and results, he was a 4-chan troll turned shooter, with maybe a bit of a libetarian bent, but mostly a generally nihilistic guy losing his mind in the cesspits of discussions.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    did ice just murder a bunch of immigrants to give the government an excuse to further crack down?

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  • [+] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Could be a mix of the two. Could be an ICE officer who was off duty. We don't even know who they are hiring or who they are redirecting from what agency. Or it could just be someone who wanted to be ICE or were rejected by them.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why would someone shoot detainees while hating ice?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Indescrimanant shooting. That's how.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago

    Sniper shoots unlawfully detained people. Homeland Security sells the story as an attack on ICE.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (16 children)
  • [–] 87 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

    Sounds like 3 people shot, and the shooter killed himself. 2 people were detainees that were shot, no information on the third. Noem of course is saying "violence against ICE has to stop".... But this very much sounds like violence against immigrants. Unless they were detaining ICE officers

    Edit: Fox is reporting all 3 were detainees, being shot with a rifle from range and the shooter killed himself. Fox made sure to say the shooter was white.

    I haven't seen anyone else report on it outside FOX/CNN with any details yet

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Who is so racist that they have to kill people already detained and likely have already shitty ruined lives? These maga cultists better be labeled as terrorists once trump is gone

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Is that a serious question?

    It's been like a week since someone killed Charlie Kirk for not being rightwing enough.

    And you're surprised someone thinks we should execute immigrants instead of "just" detain and deport?!

    The far right has been fracturing since Trump took office.

    They all want different things to different extremes, and now that MAGA controls the whole federal government, they're all pissed things aren't happening exactly as they want.

    They're realizing that what they thought was "us" is really a bunch of "them".

    trump speed runs everything, usually it takes years for a fascist movement to start eating itself once it comes to power.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Did I miss credible evidence coming out that Robinson was actually part of a far right group that thought Kirk wasn't extreme enough?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Ugh, I have to agree with this because you’re correct. I haven’t seen anything confirming right wing or left wing either. It seems like the dude just acted and a case could be made for either side.

    I say ugh because it would be easier if we could have a definite reason to point to.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Fox made sure to say the shooter was white.

    Honestly I'm a little surprised they did.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well I read it and was like why would they point that out, and then was like ohhhh, probably for the best after this past weeks bologna

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What a tool that noem is, trying to spin a victim narrative real quick before anyone actually knows what happened.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Unfortunately, the Nazi government is going to use this to further abuse their power.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This picture took me way too long to get the joke on but lmao I'm stealing it

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don't know what the things to the left are, plus pears?

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    So supposedly this was targeted at ICE but he missed and hit 3 immigrants by accident. So, again, both sides will claim the other side is responsible.

    The only thing clear is that there's more violence coming.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So supposedly this was targeted at ICE but he missed and hit 3 immigrants by accident.

    Source?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You see the picture? It says "anti-ICE" on the bullet. I find it really fucking weird that ever since Luigi all the killers write something on the bullets and it's supposed to tell us what side they were on. So I'm not saying he wrote this and that he was "anti-ICE", I'm just saying that both sides will no claim he was from the other side. One because of what he supposedly wrote on the bullet, the other because of who he hit.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If the shooter was actually Anti-ICE and chose to write something on the casings, they would write something other than "Anti-ICE". That's not even a message.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    And only on one bullet... perfectly left facing up on the ground, totally not staged for the photo at all. There's no way that an ICE agent could have possibly written that quickly with a pen/marker/sharpie... at an office... where the shooting happened. Nope, couldn't possibly have been one of the Gestapo there after the fact, they're trustworthy and never do anything illegal.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The world pretty much fell over themselves thinking how awesome the 'deny', 'defend', 'depose' was, so I'm not particularly surprised everyone that follows through with sniping tries to imitate that in some way. It's a way for the shooter to tap into being as important and significant as Luigi has been in popular culture. Or in this case, it might have been 'ironic' as a supremely broken 4-chan edge-lord thinking they are going out of the world doing the ultimate troll.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "left-wing extremist" who was "politically motivated to go after people who are enforcing our border."

    If they keep saying it they’ll be right eventually. “SEE?!? We told you so!!”

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Thoughts and prayers...

    But still nowhere near as big of a tragedy as when a school gets shot up. And Charlie Kirk said these are the price of freedom

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Looking at history and how unoriginal HF is. My prediction remains:

    Big ass false flag attack is on the horizon.

    Putin flavored.

    Everything the regime has tried to use to incite "civil war" has failed so far.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Interesting idea, but what could it possibly be? Americans shrug off gun violence like it's just a part of life.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    So basically you can write anything on the bullet to place blame on the side you want blamed and everyone will automatically believe you? -- because someone who would shoot people would definitely not lie or try to make it look like a certain "side" did it, right?

    Or maybe no matter what they write or who they shoot, this regime will blame it on "the left". (edit to add): The FBI could just as easily have scrawled that "anit-ice" on there before taking the picture. I guess messages on bullets is the new trend now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    So basically you can write anything on the bullet to place blame on the side you want blamed and everyone will automatically believe you?

    Everyone on the side not being blamed, yes

    Or maybe no matter what they write or who they shoot, this regime will blame it on “the left”

    Also yes

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Someone literally writes "Anti-ICE" on a bullet casing with what looks like a Sharpie? Is this The Onion? And shoots detainees because they hate ICE? Does that make any sense to anyone?

    Here's a better theory: ICE killed a couple of detainees and they couldn't even stage a "fake attack by leftists" story. Motivation makes no sense and multiple people are dead including, conveniently, the sniper.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    Yeah, they took it one step too far there with the fake sniper, but this story has very obviously been falsified.

    What seems to have happened here is some far right nutjob killed a bunch of detainees because it's not enough that immigrants get deported, no, they have to fucking die (and if you don't think that's plausible you've not been paying attention). Then the people at ICE decided that the last thing they wanted was for this to increase sympathy for immigrants so they hastily scrawled "ANTI-ICE" (about the least plausible "Fuck you" anyone has ever put on a munition... That'd be like some Tommy in WW2 writing "ANTI-GERMAN" on his grenade... No, you write something funny like "Catch!") on single cartridge out of a stack of five, using a sharpie from the front desk, because they saw it in the news recently with the Charlie Kirk stuff and figured it would seem plausible.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    They're so fucking desperate for martial law

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    50-80 years from now real truth will be revealed from some 3 letter agency that put Mr Donald in charge by attempt murder and now continue those "murder" actions to steer American citizens and the global politics on this planet. I see a pattern here. Previously same agency was steering global politics toward sexuality now it's war and murder.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Edit: So I guess ICE is just straight up executing people now?

    Fuck this country.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Do it again, but this time hit the actual bad guys.

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  • Oh NO! anyway.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Spells and chanting...

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