In the caption of the Instagram post, he wrote, "An old white woman got on the train and immediately pointed at me and told me to correct how I was sitting. I refused, so she went to the conductor and complained. The conductor called the police and stopped the train," he said.

O'Keefe also says in the caption that the friend of the woman who called the police had said to him, "You're not the minority anymore."

A separate video about the incident has been uploaded by the user, Nalae, on TikTok, where it has quickly gone viral, having been viewed over 160,000 times as of reporting.

They said I was disturbing the peace by not leaving the train. They pulled me off the train and arrested me without even talking to the Karen who reported the one black person on the train. On the platform, the police detained me and interrogated me. Only black folks stayed nearby and recorded the arrest. When I demanded a lawyer and reminded them they didn't even take a statement from the woman who complained they eventually released me. This country is growing more psycho by the day. What will you do about it?"

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[–] 278 points 1 year ago (19 children)

"You're not the minority anymore."

Jesus fucking Christ.

This says so much. They think “minority” means a person who gets special treatment. That’s how fucking deluded they’ve become.

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  • [–] 104 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    That... explains so much. Racists are fucking jealous that black people get to be oppressed??? Is it like some martyrdom by proxy fuckedupedness?

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Sorta. I was raised with this bullshit, so I can see the distortion of reality. I'm still unpacking all this in therapy myself, because it's a whole worldview.

    First off, they're woefully uneducated about history. My high school in Oklahoma briefly touched on the Civil Rights Movement and tried to pass it off as something that was over and done. Rosa Parks got arrested, the white people were shocked that this could happen, they had a sit-in party at a milkshake stand (they didn't talk about any of the pushback that got), MLK did his speech and now everything is fine for black people, no more institutional racism, literally being taught in schools. Now, combine that with your own needs not being met, and the talking heads/politicans say that you're not getting the aid you need because it's going towards making hurt feelings better. There's only so much money in the coffers, and you gotta be really hard up if you're white, but it's easy to get if you're black.

    There's also a heavy religious framing about ancestral guilt. Like, if God can make life suck for everybody because Eve ate an apple, and libs are trying to play god, it follows to reason they'd want to make your life suck for the sins of your great-great-great grandparents. It's never outright stated, but if you listen to enough sermons, the puzzle fills in. Like, again, they think the civil rights movement fixed everything, so they think white people have atoned for their transgressions, but the pastor says libs are in consort with satan and can't forgive like jesus, so that's why they want white people to suffer.

    Edit: I want to make it clear that I do not personally believe any of that, it's just what I was taught as a kid.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    I appreciate you identifying where in the GOP's propaganda they lead young people astray.

    People like you doing a retrospective autobiopsy via therapy can help those of growing up in other contexts protect young people from propaganda, and distribute to them the truth.

    Speak your truth! It's only becoming more important as time goes on in this increasingly fascistic world.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My favorite part of this is the only people making the ignorant racist lives suck are the Republicans taking everything not the left asking them to be tolerant...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It's like that comic about the guy with a plateful of cookies telling one guy that ta third guy is going to take his singular cookie. There are 2 types of republicans - one that takes, and one that gets taken from just as much as the left. The prior group has convinced the latter group that the actual thief is the left, who are in just as bad of a position as they are, if not worse. That's why they can't believe it. They're not taking everything, at least not enough to make ends meet most of the time, same as us. It's the much smaller fraction of rich republicans that are doing the taking. The issue is that they can't believe that truth, and so they lash out and become a completely different problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    This is why the term "color blind" is used by someone trying to go the right way, but still not getting it, which leads to the ignorance of their racism. In being blind you are blind to the fact that racism still exist and isn't fixed. Then that leads to incorrect beliefs like "minorities are getting special priveleges and when they don't have the same quality of life it is because of their own poor behavior" as opposed to acknowledging the systemic racism still in place.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sometimes, but not always. I used to call myself colorblind, but I could see how the cops treated my black friends worse than they treated me. At one point, they rounded us up waiting at the bus stop (there was an abandoned restaurant by the bus stop, and the cops said we were trying to break in), and all my POC friends got frisked, but I was the only blonde girl, so I just got a talking to about how "hanging out with the wrong crowd will ruin my life". Some of those kids are working on their PhD now, so "wrong crowd", kiss my ass.

    I understood "colorblind" as a "skin tone has no bearing on how I interact with you, we're all human".

    I always thought that "everybody gets treated the same at first, adjust as we go along" was respectful, but then moved to the west coast and it's apparently a horribly racist thing to do here, and I don't understand why?? Something about how black people are going through struggles I can't understand, but I also thought that everybody had struggles I don't know about?

    Like, if I don't make assumptions about somebody in a wheelchair, it's a good thing and not ableist, but if I don't make assumptions about a black person, it's a bad thing and racist? I have never been able to understand how people up here think it's less racist to stereotype an ethnicity.

    There's also the problem with white "leftists" up here not actually knowing any POC and getting it from fucking facebook memes. Like, I had a white person once tell me, in all seriousness, that me saying "hey, what's up" is appropriating AAVE and the correct thing to say in greeting to a black person is "I see and respect our differences". I said that sounded patronizing as fuck, and she said I should join the kkk with that attitude.

    Unlearning racism has been an awful experience, really. I'm listening to what black people say they want, but that's somehow still racist, and I'm so close to just giving up and doing what feels right to me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Colorblind is removing their identity.

    You are still a black, white, brown, etc. person (I’m using {color} from now on cause I don’t want to type an array of colors each time). The person’s experiences as a {color} person are valid.

    While you shouldn’t treat someone different because they are {color}, you should validate that they ARE different and celebrate those differences in an appropriate fashion.

    It’s like a friend coming out to you and you reply “I don’t care”, while that is not the worst way to respond and you mean well, you are invalidating WHO they are.

    I think this is much more eloquently illustrates my point: https://youtu.be/91O7q7D4xnU

    Consider therapy. It helps

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Consider therapy. It helps

    Thanks, you must have missed where I said I'm slowly unpacking all this in therapy. My therapist says I'm doing good, and that I'm not a racist monster because I'm putting in the effort, but that doesn't seem to be a common definition. In any case, I don't call myself colorblind any more, even if I don't understand why, people do react poorly, so I don't do it any more. This is retrospective.

    It’s like a friend coming out to you and you reply “I don’t care”, while that is not the worst way to respond and you mean well, you are invalidating WHO they are.

    But when I called myself 'colorblind' I wasn't saying "I don't care", I was saying "Okay, tell me what that means".

    Like, when I came out, I absolutely hated how big of a deal people made about it. I had people "validate that I was different", but it felt like they were just making fun of me for being different because it was all weirdly patronizing. All this nonsense about "it's okay that you like boys and girls, you're still my friend" when I'm an adult who is into men and women, and I wouldn't have started hanging out with you if I thought you didn't like gay people? I'm still me, I haven't changed, and stroking my ego is just telling me that you feel weird around me now that you know I'm not 'normal'.

    I still felt stereotyped and unwelcome, even though they were being "inclusive", and I don't want to do that to black people. I don't understand why that's racist.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They honestly think that black people and minorities have it on easy street.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    thats because they are afraid of the power and riches they accumulated through subjugating minorities, will be used against them in retribution, so they go the extra mile , with the help aristocrats/oligarchs to keep the status quo. also white people are extra defensive when discussing racism as well. even if they arnt outwardly racist(closeted racist), i witness how they act around people that are not white , especially when they either look or approach near them.

    during covid, like in the midst of it a older white lady dint like i was getting on the train the same time i was, she said it was not nice to go before "an older lady", i muttered bitch under my breath, you would do that to another white man or lady, but you would do that to a POC, because you will get immediate clapback from a white person over a POC. AS FAR as covid was concerned she wasnt masked, or properly masked. the entrance to train was large enough where 2 people can get on the same time.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    on reddit, people said racist white people like that are afraid they do the same thing to them, of how they persecuted the blacks, so they act extra "im not racist, your being racist for calling out my race". they also try to deflect white privilege as a non-existential issue.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Its a tale as old as time that they'd strip protections against racism, implement racist laws, and then pretend as if slavery was so long ago that it didn't matter anymore. It was literally happening not a decade after the Civil War ended

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  • [–] 136 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    The conductor called the police and stopped the train," he said.

    Well there's your problem, the conductor should have told this woman to do one. Let's say that he had his feet up on a seat, or whatever, in what world do you stop the train service entirely for that.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am thinking she didn't go to the conductor with the actual complaint. Instead, like the Central Park Karen, she probably came up with some horror story of the man assaulting her or some such. He noted, after all, that they didn't even take her statement when arresting him (for no reason).

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah, you'd just ask him to not do that, explain that it's a rule ...and that'd be that!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And if it's bothering her so much, change train cars! Sit a few seats down. Get on another train.

    Admittedly, this is harder when you don't have robust public transit.

    The way you get more robust public transit is people using it though (and voting for it). Enforcing rules in this works against that imo

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why should some old lady move because some young guy is breaking the rules. Why can't she try to tell him then go tell the conductor when he refuses to obey the basic rules of public transport.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    That sounds like a good way to approach the situation.

    Ask the other rider to fix their behavior. If they don't, ask the conductor to ask the other rider to fix their behavior. If they don't, I don't think you need to call the cops.

    The conductor could just as much charge the rider some fee that can be posted in the rider policy of the train, in the train, in the ticketing app for the train, at the station, etc. This way the train owner/operator can collect some remedy for the rider's violation of the rules to help fund remediating the rider's impact to the train environment (like cleaning their specific seat when that's usually outside the conductor's responsibilities), including a markup if they want to add that.

    Now, I don't think charging fees will work for every violation. But I still think it's a valid lever the train owner/operator could make use of instead of bringing the entire train to a halt.

    If the rider refuses to pay up, then call the cops. Or, the conductor could also ask the rider in violation to exit the train at the next stop. That's another option. If that fails, call the cops.

    Additionally, if cops are needed, the conductor could call them and ask them to meet the train at one of the stops coming up. This way the arrival of the cops could be timed with the arrival of the train to the station. Minimizes impact to everyone else's schedule, and ensures cops have access to the train since most of the time spent on a train is in between stations which often isn't accessible by road.

    I think there are ways to better manage this than to stop a train as soon as a conductor witnesses a violation and start a train only after cops arrive to that specific location and escort the rider violator off the train.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    This just after a lynching happened in Jacksonville, Mississippi.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Does the idea of a lynching happening in the US seem particularly far-fetched to you? If so I'd say that you're extremely uninformed. Also that's a weirdly specific alternative you're presenting lol

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I totally believe he was probably It should be investigated and I support which ever actor or whatever is paying for the second autopsy however it is hard to know if that is even what you are referring to.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    https://abc11.com/post/javion-magee-21-year-old-truck-driver-found-dead-henderson-north-carolina-death-ruled-suicide-nc-medical-examiners-say/16351111/ Again all you really know at this point is he died and had a rope around his neck, correct? Well at one point that's all they knew, but then they investigated.

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  • [+] -23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Don't get the downvotes. Are we at the stage where asking for a source is bad now?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    no, but when you ask it in such a disingenuous tone, like when someone gives you examples and source, and you keep saying what source? and ignoring the evidence, you're trolling. this is the same thing on reddit, dont act like that. you are obviously fishing for a reaction.

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    [–] 59 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    So he was sitting improperly? They didn't say exactly why it was 'improper' to begin with?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The dropdown menu just doesn't offer them the option for 'was on a whites only train', prob an admin error that will be soon corrected.

    /s

    But dickishness does/should have some consequences. Obviously not handcuffs consequences tho.

    Someone not occupying more than one sit on a public transport isn't the worst thing to gatekeep.

    How it can escalate to calling the police idk.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The article is purposely misleading.

    From another article: The Bear’ writer booted from MTA train for refusing to take feet off seats — he blames ‘old white lady’

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Maybe he had his shoes on the seats and is now crying racism.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If he had his feet up on another seat, and said "go fuck yourself" instead of "no" (which is a scenario compatible with the description). He still shouldn't have been arrested.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I disagree. If the conductor tells someone to stop being an asshole and they curse back, they’re belligerent and noncompliant, and it’s reasonable to have the police remove them from the train.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I disagree. If the conductor tells someone to stop being an asshole and they curse back, they’re belligerent and noncompliant, and it’s reasonable to have the police remove them from the train.

    Cool, but that's not disagreeing with what I said.

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  • [–] 118 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "You're not the minority anymore."

    It's a code for "you're in Trump America, now."

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  • [–] 96 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I don't like the headline. He has a name, you know, and it's Alex O'keefe.

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  • [–] 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The headline makes it sound like he did something wrong too. Instead he was harassed because of a Karen

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