What’s going on in Utah?
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Hmmm I sure wonder which side these two guys belonged to.......
Definitely liberal democratic socialists. Definitely.
Geee, it’s almost as if Republicans are violent and hateful.
But they are so "pro-life".
Pro-birth.
Not even that. If they were pro-birth, they'd at least be in favor of easy access to prenatal healthcare. But they're always opposed to that, too.
They're just pro-pregnancy. They don't give a shit if a woman's pregnancy is viable or not, let alone whether carrying the fetus to term will kill the woman or not.
Not saying I disagree with the statement, but where did you see that these men were Republicans? I didn't find any reference to any political motivation in the article, but I also didn't read it particularly thoroughly
If they were left leaning in any way they would have led with that.
I didn't find any reference to any political motivation
I didn't either, but that probably implies they are white christofacists, right? (Or, as the Utah governor put it, "one of us"?)
If their demographic was any different and fit the narratives that the Right is trying to spin on this, it would have been leaked already....
The Utah governor used “one of us” to mean a member of their local community.
I get why it’s such a fun sound bite but it comes across as dumb as the right yelling let’s go Brandon
and by a member of their local community he meant a member of their church,
i lived there, i know their dogwhistles
It's probably best not to make assumptions before we know for sure.
Same as the motivations behind Charlie Kirk's shooter should not have been assumed to have been either left or right until we know for sure.
You're correct, but you are also assuming the media is honest. If I am correct in my assumption that the media (or, at least the mega corporations that own them) are carefully curating favor with the administration, then if these people were "on the right" we'll be told that they are "on the left" anyway.
You are correct, but I will say, their fascist in chief has been demonizing the media, and the right has a track record of domestic terrorism, so while it is possible they were progressive people, chances are they were conservatives
It’s probably best not to make assumptions before we know for sure.
Right, but we can make educated deductions based on what we know. I tend to agree that (as with the case with Kirk's killer), if any politics left of center were involved, we likely would have heard about it already.
Not Republican, MAGA. Republicans don't exist anymore. And we know they were MAGA, because the bomb didn't go off, because MAGAs are predictably virtuosically incompetent. If they were Democrats, the bomb would have worked.
Also Republicans are too cowardly to try to bomb anything. MAGAs are cowardly, too, but the are also breath-takingly stupid, so their stupidity often overwhelms their cowardice, and they do remarkably dumb stuff, like try to storm the Capitol.
Where are u seeing that they're right wing? I looked everywhere and couldn't find it
"Had been lit", was it like a stick of dynamite?
In the guardian one line sort of suggested an incendiary, but then later in searching the house they said explosive material. There is a huge difference between actual explosives and incendiaries. Gasoline and dynamite are completely different animals.
i don't trust the news to get the difference between high explosives, explosives, firebombs, and potato guns.
potato guns.
That's obviously a Glock...
Is there any difference between high and sober explosives other than quantity?
My guess... It was anfo but they tried to set it off with a bit of string that they lit.
Probably one of the round ones with the fuse coming out of the top. My understanding from TV is that modern dynamite isn't lit but set off with a plunger or twisty mechanism attached to wires.
Looks like Cox has more of them "one of us" to contend with now.
I recommend watching “murder among the Mormons” on Netflix.
Looks like right wing Muslims playing the smart game and provoking the nazis I to do what they always wanted to do.
Fuck both of them.

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