cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/37862771

The evidence released so far suggest Tyler Robinson could potentially be linked to a movement like the Order of Nine Angles or 764.

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[–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

This is not the same Tyler Robinson that is in custody for the shooting of Charlie Kirk. Property records and addresses show the donor residing at a different address than the shooter. The shooter never donated to Trump or any other presidential candidate.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He was a Groyper, a Nick Fuentes far right Nazi troll, and a Mormon.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Don't let this detail be forgotten

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Curious to see how the MAGA crowd will spin this

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've already seen it "he was radicalized by the left during his one semester at USU"

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  • And USU is a pretty conservative school. It's like 1.5 hours from the liberal hub of SLC, is known for its agricultural science program, and is smack in the middle of a ton of farms. It's about as conservative as the area he was from (it's just past the last of the liberal area in Davis County), and on the opposite end of the state. The area is culturally fairly similar to ultra-conservative Idaho, which is about an hour up the road.

    My guess is he didn't do well so far from home, so he found a local school to attend in the same county as his parents.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I'm actually convinced now that there is a media campaign painting him as far right so he doesn't turn into an other luigi.

    This is some really shallow "evidence" while everyone that knew him seems to say he was to the left.

    I will wait to hear more but this whole gopher thing seems like a ploy. I will get a good laugh out of it if it turns out he was centrist or something.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This is some really shallow "evidence" while everyone that knew him seems to say he was to the left.

    I agree this evidence is shallow, but what people are saying he's left? The one person who said that retracted it as far as I've heard.

    I don't think we have any clue. I think right now everyone is scrambling to make it look like he's not on their team.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    His family and his friends from what I've read. Although everything should be taken with a grain of salt at this point.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, it's all scrambling and bullshit right now. I've seen his grandmother say she has no idea. The New York Post (trash rag) claims his partner is transgender but then claims they're not sure if they're romantic partners or roommates, then states they have no idea if they're transitioning. His grandmother is on record as saying she has no idea what her grandson's politics are. The governor says he's a leftist and it's very clear but has offered no reasoning. A former school friend said Democrat but then retracted the statement within a few hours (which could mean anything from "It's true but I don't want to get involved", to "I didn't understand what I was being asked", to "I lied and don't want my statement scrutinized so that I won't be a national pariah when it comes out").

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    His family said he was vocal about not liking Kirk. Your head filled in the part as to why. I find it suspicious they didn't expand on that more. I guess it's hard to admit "we raised a white supremacist"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Why in the world would anyone think this pos was a conservative is beyond me.

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    [–] 75 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hopefully this wakes everyone up to how fast the GOP is willing to nail civility to a cross the second they have a half decent excuse. They were actively calling for a civil war and calling for the slaughter of their neighbors.

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  • [–] 122 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Which is why things have gotten quiet. The narrative isn't supported.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Nah, they're trying to say that he was radicalized by the left based on an anonymous report by one of his supposed friends. You know, the kinda friends he'd have that would 100% lie about that and stay anonymous so people can't fact check 'em. Or the anonymous person was just someone trying to keep up the momentum and didn't even know him. Either way they are falling for it.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm suspicious on the donation document. It's listed as entrepreneur when I'd seen he was in an electrician apprenticeship. Tyler Robinson is a common name, are we sure this is the same Tyler Robinson?

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  • [–] [S] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think you're right to be suspicious of everything right now. This article at least frames most of this as speculation. The groyper stuff seems a bit harder to dismiss, since the FBI decided to release evidence that really makes that case, despite them trying to frame it as "antifa."

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I'm not super familiar with Vaush or his content so I don't want to immediately assume correctness but in a recent of his on the topic he stated that there is another Tyler Robinson that lived nearby the one in question who was responsible for that donation.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Doesn’t matter if he’s MAGA or not. Trump and his supporters will weaponize this event either way.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The Wall Street Journal, which has fucked up and had to issue a retraction already, is currently saying he's independent but highlighting Cox calling him ultra-leftist. So the general tone of the article is still, this guy's a dangerous dem.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    If it's true that he's far right, everything fair so far has, the potential to backfire in an insane way.

    Trump himself made a public address about Charlie and said "radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives."

    If this was radical right violence, it's a fucking huge deal. Not because of the event, but because of the reaction.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Lol, O9A. Trying to do a bomb the mosque moment.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    It is ridiculous how fast they passed from the "civil war" narrative to "Charlie Kirk was a very compassionate man, jesus wants you to forgive your enemies" lol.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    I think that Tyler was a quality boy and I’d like to see more people making America great again like he did.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Lol imagine if the guy who nailed Kirk with a single shot at 220m hated guns. This article is dumb.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I guess he's the next Luigi, no conclusive evidence, just a scapegoat, will probably get a perp walk just to show they are still in "control".

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    All we know really is the evidence the FBI has released, consisting of bullet casing engravings. These engravings are straight up groyper rhetoric. The fact that the dude "loves guns" isn't the point of the article at all if you read beyond the headline.

    Just STFU. Or you're no better than the conservatives screaming, "Hang him high!"

    Uhhh...do you really think that? You think me posting this very preliminary review of available evidence is the same as conservatives calling for open war against anyone to their left and the end of democracy? You think that's the same?!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Calling the bullet casing engravings "straight up groyper rhetoric" feels like grasping at straws.

    To me, it reads like a joke from a 22 year old troll who thought it'd be funny to have these memes repeated all over the news rather than a manifesto explaining his motivations.

    Edit: I read some more info and am now less confident in the stand I took in this comment

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