The Charlie Kirk shooting suspect is in state custody, NBC News confirms.

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[–] 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"I hope he's going to be found guilty, I would imagine, and I hope he gets the death penalty"

-Trump

How pathetic a world we live in where the POTUS wants the state to kill people and is proudly quoted about it more than once in his lifetime. I get that sometimes we want people to die. Trump's death will be gleefully celebrated worldwide, and I will join.

But there's just something so insidious about people in power wanting the government to kill people THAT HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN PROVEN GUILTY OF ANYTHING. Trump campaigning for the death penalty for Central Park Five should've been enough to disqualify him from ever being seen as a decent person. And yet millions ignore or agree with his sentiments of executing first and asking questions later. I cannot even fathom that anyone can fully think through the death penalty and still support it. Not even for the proven-guilty. Because there's almost always some possibility of error. How can anyone support laws that could ever possibly lead to the state murdering an innocent person? Like, ever, one time? What a sick world.

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  • [–] [S] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's a whole lot of real good reasons to be against capital punishment. Little t promoting it is just one more.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I agree. It's a very rare thing that Trump ever supports, does, says, or likes a thing that isn't revolting. Any time an exception to that rule seems to come to light, I have to question if I have a wrong/horrible belief. He's just such a consistently shitty person that it's hard to fathom.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not really sure which part of “Lock her up” implied “..after due process and a conviction by a trial of her peers” so this shouldn’t really be too surprising.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    Very telling that no one is talking about his skin color or ethnicity

    If he had been black, that detail would have been repeated endlessly ... almost joyfully.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Quite possibly they captured the kid from the stairwell photos, but I'm not convinced yet he's the shooter. Notably, no gun in the photo and no way a long rifle fits in that backpack.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    I thought they’d already found the gun left behind?

    EDIT: Oh! Were these photos before the shooting? I assumed they were from after.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The theory is that the rifle was disassembled to fit in a backpack. This is what Ear Shooter did to get into position. However, Crooks used an AR-15 style rifle, which breaks down into much smaller pieces than an "older model [bolt-action] Mauser 30-06".

    I'm going to want to see exactly what rifle it was, what condition it was found in (assembled or not, specifically), before speculating any further.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Granted, I'm not familiar with how a Mauser .30-06 breaks down either, my experience with that caliber is my grand-dad's Remington 721 that I inherited.

    But on that gun, even if you remove the barrel, the wood stock aint fitting in a backpack.

    (721 is super dangerous too! Can fire without touching the trigger. Mine has been fixed:

    https://youtu.be/NlzoMqtDUxs#t=3m54s)

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I'm withholding my opinion on the breakdown capability until there's sufficient information, even if that's the "official theory". I mean, even if the stock was cut down, it looks like the shortest barrel would have been 22 inches, but an "older" one looks like it would more likely have a 24 inch barrel. The rifle is reported to have been scoped, so it could have been cut short, no need for the front sight.

    But someone who'd planned that well ... would they have just left it in the woods? Instead of continuing to carry it with them still hidden in the backpack?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    These threads always degrade into gun nuts listing off facts about gun models no one cares about and are inrrelevant.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Looks like this turned out to be MAGAt on MAGAt action. As expected.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This person is in state custody at the moment. Of course there will be an interesting push and pull as there often is between federal and state authorities about who charges first and whether there are federal charges warranted here.

    What would federal charges be?

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    In this economy? Anything they want them to be.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    For some reason this "news report" lemants the fact that we don't use the same fascist mass surveillance and image recognition technology that the Chinese Communist Party uses in China. Glossing over the fact that it wasn't needed to find the suspect. Also glossing over all the issues that would come with the adoption of such tools such as false positives and racial bias.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 year ago

    Daily Mail, so grain of salt:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15092365/Tyler-Robinson-Matt-Amber-Charlie-Kirk-parents-Utah.html

    According to that article, Robinson confessed to his father, who turned him in. His father is a "27 year veteran of the Washington County Sheriff's Department." Lots of gun stuff, kind of to be expected in Utah where hunting is certainly popular.

    So - again, according to Daily Mail reporting - family history appears to be one of law enforcement, guns, and religion.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Bella ciao Bella ciao Bella ciao

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