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[–] 65 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The raid drew criticism as footage showed the workers shackled at their wrists, ankles and waist.

It has now emerged that Trump asked his officials to “encourage” the detained South Korean workers to extend their stay in the country and train American employees, foreign ministry officials in Seoul said at a briefing.

WTF.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    At least one had a visa (I assume a lot more but only read title saying worker had visa).

    Then the fascist us nimrods said hey you can stay if you want to train americans to do your job. China said all workers come home. We can then discuss them coming back later… as if.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    At least one had a visa (I assume a lot more but only read title saying worker had visa).

    Then the fascist us nimrods said hey you can stay if you want to train americans to do your job. China said all workers come home. We can then discuss them coming back later… as if.

    China? All Asians look the same eh?

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  • According to articles I've read (i.e., im not expert), they had visas (or the electronic visa-free authorization) that allow for certain limited business purposes.

    • Consult with business associates
    • Attend a scientific, educational, professional, or business convention or conference
    • Settle an estate
    • Negotiate a contract

    Performing regular work, like building a factory, is explicitly not allowed. From what I read, if a US firm buys equipment from a foreign company, they can have people with that visa class (b1) do installation, but it has to be explicitly arranged ahead of time. I'm not sure if that applies in this situation since it's not a US firm on either side of the equation (unless there's a separate business entity of Hyundai USA or something like that).

    Honestly, this whole thing reads to me like a megacorporation not wanting to pay an outside firm to build their new factory when they already have contractors they have that relationship with, and they also didn't want to shell out the money (and they didn't have the legal basis) for the correct type of visas. They instead tried to get their contractors to perform work that shouldn't be allowed and they expected to get away with it. Now that they've been caught, they are trying to get public opinion on their side by trying to connect what happened to their well paid engineers and technicians to what's been happening to poor manual laborers who've literally walked to the US by themselves to escape violence created by the US's own meddling.

    I'm open to being wrong about this, but I don't think I am. Hyundai absolutely has the resources to have dotted their i's and crossed their t's to ensure this wouldn't happen.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I hope they shut that whole thing down or move it to a northern state.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well, sure, Billy-Joe here will be operating the nanolithography machine in no time. I mean, it’s no different from tuning a V8 engine, right?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    The Chinese are going to completely ignore and boycott states even more now. It won’t even bother them either.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    It’s uncanny how much they follow the abusive relationship tropes. Like Jekyll and Hyde

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    [–] 232 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    This is the managerial talent that bankrupts casinos.

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  • [–] 91 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The joke of the Trump Taj Mahal and Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino was that Trump still made money on both operations. What ultimately bankrupted the casinos was all the unpaid debts and obligations and liens by contractors.

    He'd hire people, refuse to pay them when the work was complete, and take them to court over every little thing. The business was siloed off from Trump's personal holdings, so the only thing anyone could collect on was a building that had liabilities far in excess of revenues (which Trump was embezzling anyway). By the time Taj Mahal was sold off and Plaza Hotel and Casino was demolished, they were underwater several times their book value.

    This was a miserable way to run a business. And it wasn't a particularly savvy way to make money long term. But as a Bust Out, it went relatively smoothly. The state officials of New Jersey played along in exchange for handsome contributions to their election funds, the regulators stayed out of Trump's hair(piece), and the Trump family left the market richer than when they started, which is all they really cared about.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago

    The New York Times showed in 2020 that he’s also been using his hundreds of millions of dollars in “debts” to avoid paying taxes for literally decades now as well.

    He’s provably a sham from top to bottom and his fans love it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    So, same strats but now the casino is a (increasingly "former") superpower that can make war.

    Yeah, that checks out.

    What I really don't understand is how destroying the country will benefit these ultra-rich, if like, say, the dollar becomes worthless and the economy stagnates into freefall a la Great Depression.

    Do I not understand global economics of the ultra-elite or is there really some Epstein-crypto-island-2.0 where gold bars are the only currency, where they're planning on skittering off to when they've left the rest of the planet a smoldering ruin?

    Seriously, they're the greediest most self-serving liars this side of Hell, I don't think "Watch it all burn just for lulz" is the actual endgame and yet they're so ridiculously inept and violent that seems to be the only logical outcome that can be seen miles away and closing fast...

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Mob bosses's idiot nephew with a loud mouth that pushed his way to a managerial position even though he has no talent at all but thinks he is the smartest person in the room because everyone is afraid of him and his family.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Step 1: Tariffs the entire world. Encourage companies to build factories in the country to avoid said tariffs. Step 2: Raid and arrest people sent to build said factories. Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit???

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If I was one of those workers, the only way I'd set foot on American soil again is on a pilgrimage to piss on Trump's grave.

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  • [–] 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Conservatives are so fucking dumb.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Constantly shooting themselves in the dick and then yelling about how its the "radical left"

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The incompetence is off the charts, it's obvious ICE are just racist goons who act first ask questions never.

    "Oh you want me to arrest people different than me? Oh hell yes!"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They are chasing those bonuses they are promised. The utter distaste I have toward them. I'm just thankful I haven't encountered any of them.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Their lack of intelligence, tact, and humanity are all genuinely breathtaking at times.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    And they always manage to sink to ever lower depths of idiocy.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    At this point? ... the idiocy is not in their actions ... the idiocy is in the inaction of the rest of the country.

    I can only stomach saying how stupid someone is for so long .... after a while, I start looking at the crowd of people standing around the idiot as they let him get away with everything.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "C'mon baby, it was just one little arrest! It didn't mean anything!"

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They could be allowed to go back to the U.S. for work later if necessary, the officials said.

    Yeah, that's totally reasonable. I'd totally come back to get raided by racist goons a second time. What planet do these fucking idiots come from? I'd pull all investments from America if I was a from a not insane foreign nation.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I must apologize for the Americans. They are idiots. We have purposely trained them wrong, as a joke.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Also, let's not forget that this was all due to a salty, ignorant Trump support running for Georgia office.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-branum-republican-hyundai-georgia-immigration-raid-1235422245/

    So much own goaling here.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    South Korean workers, so "exhausted and in shock" that they desperately want to go back to South Korean work culture.

    LMAO you've truly outdone yourselves.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    I mean, we've seen what ICE does to non-white people with no actual evidence. Christ, I'd want to go back to the evil I know, rather than the evil I don't. I wouldn't want to end up in some random prison in some random country for the crime of having the wrong skin color or ethnicity.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Trump probably: "We threatened them over and over, brandished weapons and hid our faces! We treated them like animals. Gave them every opportunity to see how we dominate them, even the ones here legally. Why do they not want to work here!"

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    The probelm with people like trump is that hes too stupid to know hes stupid and too evil to care about anyone else.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    ...Isn't that what most of them were doing anyway? They were setting up equipment and training people up?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    but they are fleeing back to South korea, so they are leaving things unfinished.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah because they got attacked by ICE. But if the alleged reason for attacking them was "you need to train Americans", and that's exactly what they were doing, then that smells like a BS reason. But it's ICE, so that tracks.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    its interesting that 47 would think that its OK to encorage reshoring of manufacturing via stealing training and IP of foreign firms. They are not stupid.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Abusers do that.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    It's about time Hugo Boss starts designing uniforms again I think

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    imagine all the vehicles made by people in place where the environment is not taken care of with high levels of pollution everywhere that also does not properly fund education and has just made sure that all the properly trained people from some other country that could work/train would not want to work there that could potentially be on United States roads soon

    fetal alcohol syndrome is also still a big issue so there is that too

    think about the factory close where currently staying that has had multiple fatal accidents this year with one of those involving a forklift having over thousand pounds on it that took a curve too hard and all the load fell on someone with only the head undamaged still talking

    where are we heading in the United States? back to no standards like when that chicken plant caught fire in North Carolina

    good ol' days had some moments sure but overall they really sucked

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    you can thank that maga lady for tipping off ice.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Sure. But that’s gonna cost you a lot.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The Koreans should have taken the offer and used the opportunity to teach the Americans.

    "But Mr.Min-ji, are you sure this is how to make a car?"
    "Yes, yes Mr. Johnson, just put it deeper in there. Car will come out soon."

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