What I'm reading is that the guy with a rifle, Gamboa, has attended protests armed before. It looks like the peacekeeper thought he was a shooter, but there's no evidence so far Gamboa did anything illegal.
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Oh look. A conservative traitor instigated the violence.
I am many shades of unsurprised.
Domestic terrorists folks. Every last one. Because they've all chosen to support it despite knowing. Time to start treating them like the terrorists they are.
You mean the thugs hired by 50501?
I know Arturo, and if you did any sort of due diligence, you’d know he’s a hardcore leftist.
If you think Arturo was a ‘conservative traitor’, I think you have more problems with simply accepting what our right wing media apparatus chooses to push.
The comments are too fucking confusing. Who shot who?
I think it was like this: A was protesting, B takes out a rifle and aims at protesters. Police (or whatever the 'peacekeeping team' consists of) start shooting at B but they missed aim training on thursday so they kill A instead.
Not correct. Person C is the volunteer who is part of 50501 or whatever local organizers put this part of the protest together. B takes out a rifle and runs towards A. Person C shoots person B because Holy Shit What Is B Doing, and hits B but accidentally hits A as well.
Isnt that basically what I said? I just didnt know person Cs job there and label them with a letter
Welcome to a country where "protest peacekeepers" carry guns, and can shoot into the crowd and put the blame on someone else whi just happened to be armed as well.
Do you, American brothers, realize the sheer level of insanity you live in?
Maybe guns are bad, and maybe if you bring a rifle to a high tense situation and hold it in any manner that may seem threatening, you deserve to get shot. Super sad that an innocent died. Had the "good guy" with a gun hit the target only, then at least there would only be one less moron carrying an AR-15 today, not a sad casualty.
Yup. If you brandish a firearm in public, you are clearly trying to intimidate others. You deserve to be shot down.
Does this apply to the people that open carry AR-15s when they go to McDonalds?
Yes. Ammosexuals should be illegal.
Adding another obligatory "brandishing and open carry are legally distinct acts" to the thread.
Watch the video.
"Read theory"
This isn’t theory, this is a real scenario. Watch the video, read an interview with Gamboa, , I have actually interacted with the man and know his personal politics, I have stood next to him at protests while he was armed with multiple guns and felt safe. He’s a left wing gun rights and safety advocate with an established history in the community.
Stop obeying and doing as you’ve been told and use your eyes, ears, and brain.
Edit: The man who shot into the crowd and killed a person was specifically told that he was not allowed to be carrying a weapon. Gamboa did not kill anyone, and other than anecdotal evidence, only the man who actually killed someone brandished and shot.
What does this have to do with your fantasy of shooting people in a McDonalds?
You are really shit at interpreting context, huh?
A user wrote that someone who brandishes in public deserves to be shot.
You asked if that applies to people who open carry at McDonalds.
I replied to note that brandishing and open carry are different things.
You replied "Watch the video." As there are several videos floating around relating to this event, and as the video in OP's article does not seem at all relevant or the one that you reference, and you don't offer any reason why some video should be watched, I found this comment to be dismissive, vague, and unhelpful.
So I replied with reference to the similarly vague and unhelpful meme of "read theory" in hopes of cuing you in to the lack of imformation without wasting too much energy on your behalf.
Joke went completely over your head. You began making a character argument on behalf Gamboa as you know the guy. Completely unrelated to where the thread began.
And then when I try to reel you back in to the topic of brandishing vs open carry, you tell me I'm shit at interpreting context.
Come on, buddy. Really? Really??? I'm not someone you should be angry at or fighting with. You seemed to have been confusing brandishing for open carry and I just wanted to make sure you were aware that those are completely different things.
I’ll be honest.
“ What does this have to do with your fantasy of shooting people in a McDonalds?”
That right there, that’s when I decided I really don’t give a fuck how you feel or what you have to say. Have fun crying, though.
Maybe I shouldn't have been so crass. Maybe you shouldn't have been so obtuse and avoidant. Mistakes were made, had I known your proximity to the people involved ahead of time I probably would have cut you more slack. More communication and explanation up front is always better.
You still couldnt answer the question though? So there really was no point at all to the McDonalds comment? And your condescending attitude after you were asked about it? The nerve.
The point was that if it was justified to shoot at the guy at the protest then it would be justified to shoot anyone open carrying to wal-mart or McDonald’s, which it’s not. The video evidence does not show anything that justifies shooting into a crowd and killing someone in a situation where open carrying is permitted. Only one person committed gun violence and it wasn’t Gamboa, he had every right to have a weapon, the man who shot into a crowd and killed someone specifically did not have the right to be carrying a weapon, according to the job he signed on for and was supposed to be doing.
I’m sure that’s not good enough, though, right?
I can't tell if there's a /s missing there or not, but if there is, this person allegedly pointed the gun into a crowd and advanced showing intent. I would also agree that even in jest, if you brandish, you are signalling intent and immediately forfeit your right to life.
Maybe guns are bad, and maybe if you bring a rifle to a high tense situation and hold it in any manner that may seem threatening, you deserve to get shot.>
Maybe guns are tools, and maybe if the majority of protesters were visibly armed then the police would not escalate tense situations to high intensity riot conditions and beat the protesters. Had the state had to hesitate to use violence on peaceful protesters, at least there would be a bunch less abuse of the media and civilians.
The Black Panthers proved this, which is why Reagan started gun control. Modern open carry armed protests have also proven it's still true. Cops are cowards, Uvalde proved that, even with superior equipment they will find a reason not to start. Getting the left to disarm and put their protection into the hands of the very governmental authority they continually protest against has got to be the biggest con job in history
so gamboa pulled out a gun, aimed it at protesters, Gamboa was protesting while legally open carrying his rifle at the protest, in support of the protesters, and got shot. the person who shot him also shot a bystander. gamboa is being charged with murder, because of the weird federal murder laws in america.~~ i've read that gamboa is a leftist, so why did he brandish his rifle at the protesters?~~
weird situation indeed
apparently, the guy wasn't brandishing his weapon, he was open carrying in support of the protesters, in case the police got violent. the "peacekeeper" (I'm guessing it's a right winger), saw him with his weapon and shot into a crowd of people and killed a protester.
I’ve protested standing directly next to the man and his guns multiple times, the official story here is a bunch of horseshit. Only one person committed gun violence and it wasn’t the well known gun rights and safety advocate.
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