A man who was believed to be part of a peacekeeping team for the “No Kings” protest in Salt Lake City shot at a person who was brandishing a rifle at demonstrators, striking both the rifleman and a bystander who later died at the hospital, authorities said Sunday.

Police took the alleged rifleman, Arturo Gamboa, 24, into custody Saturday evening on a murder charge, Salt Lake City Police Chief Brian Redd said at a Sunday news conference. The bystander was Arthur Folasa Ah Loo, 39, a fashion designer from Samoa.

Detectives don’t yet know why Gamboa pulled out a rifle or ran from the peacekeepers, but they accused him of creating the dangerous situation that led to Ah Loo’s death. The Associated Press did not immediately find an attorney listed for Gamboa or contact information for his family in public records.

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[–] 20 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Maybe guns are bad, and maybe if you bring a rifle to a high tense situation and hold it in any manner that may seem threatening, you deserve to get shot. Super sad that an innocent died. Had the "good guy" with a gun hit the target only, then at least there would only be one less moron carrying an AR-15 today, not a sad casualty.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Yup. If you brandish a firearm in public, you are clearly trying to intimidate others. You deserve to be shot down.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Does this apply to the people that open carry AR-15s when they go to McDonalds?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    Adding another obligatory "brandishing and open carry are legally distinct acts" to the thread.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    This isn’t theory, this is a real scenario. Watch the video, read an interview with Gamboa, , I have actually interacted with the man and know his personal politics, I have stood next to him at protests while he was armed with multiple guns and felt safe. He’s a left wing gun rights and safety advocate with an established history in the community.

    Stop obeying and doing as you’ve been told and use your eyes, ears, and brain.

    Edit: The man who shot into the crowd and killed a person was specifically told that he was not allowed to be carrying a weapon. Gamboa did not kill anyone, and other than anecdotal evidence, only the man who actually killed someone brandished and shot.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    What does this have to do with your fantasy of shooting people in a McDonalds?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You are really shit at interpreting context, huh?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (6 children)

    A user wrote that someone who brandishes in public deserves to be shot.

    You asked if that applies to people who open carry at McDonalds.

    I replied to note that brandishing and open carry are different things.

    You replied "Watch the video." As there are several videos floating around relating to this event, and as the video in OP's article does not seem at all relevant or the one that you reference, and you don't offer any reason why some video should be watched, I found this comment to be dismissive, vague, and unhelpful.

    So I replied with reference to the similarly vague and unhelpful meme of "read theory" in hopes of cuing you in to the lack of imformation without wasting too much energy on your behalf.

    Joke went completely over your head. You began making a character argument on behalf Gamboa as you know the guy. Completely unrelated to where the thread began.

    And then when I try to reel you back in to the topic of brandishing vs open carry, you tell me I'm shit at interpreting context.

    Come on, buddy. Really? Really??? I'm not someone you should be angry at or fighting with. You seemed to have been confusing brandishing for open carry and I just wanted to make sure you were aware that those are completely different things.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I’ll be honest.

    “ What does this have to do with your fantasy of shooting people in a McDonalds?”

    That right there, that’s when I decided I really don’t give a fuck how you feel or what you have to say. Have fun crying, though.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Maybe I shouldn't have been so crass. Maybe you shouldn't have been so obtuse and avoidant. Mistakes were made, had I known your proximity to the people involved ahead of time I probably would have cut you more slack. More communication and explanation up front is always better.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    You still couldnt answer the question though? So there really was no point at all to the McDonalds comment? And your condescending attitude after you were asked about it? The nerve.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The point was that if it was justified to shoot at the guy at the protest then it would be justified to shoot anyone open carrying to wal-mart or McDonald’s, which it’s not. The video evidence does not show anything that justifies shooting into a crowd and killing someone in a situation where open carrying is permitted. Only one person committed gun violence and it wasn’t Gamboa, he had every right to have a weapon, the man who shot into a crowd and killed someone specifically did not have the right to be carrying a weapon, according to the job he signed on for and was supposed to be doing.

    I’m sure that’s not good enough, though, right?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    I can't tell if there's a /s missing there or not, but if there is, this person allegedly pointed the gun into a crowd and advanced showing intent. I would also agree that even in jest, if you brandish, you are signalling intent and immediately forfeit your right to life.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Maybe guns are bad, and maybe if you bring a rifle to a high tense situation and hold it in any manner that may seem threatening, you deserve to get shot.>

    Maybe guns are tools, and maybe if the majority of protesters were visibly armed then the police would not escalate tense situations to high intensity riot conditions and beat the protesters. Had the state had to hesitate to use violence on peaceful protesters, at least there would be a bunch less abuse of the media and civilians.

    The Black Panthers proved this, which is why Reagan started gun control. Modern open carry armed protests have also proven it's still true. Cops are cowards, Uvalde proved that, even with superior equipment they will find a reason not to start. Getting the left to disarm and put their protection into the hands of the very governmental authority they continually protest against has got to be the biggest con job in history

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