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[–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Since the advent of the modern primary election system in 1972, an incumbent president has never been defeated by a primary challenger, though every president who faced a strong primary challenge went on to be defeated in the general election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_challenge

Which is exactly why everyone said it was Biden's decision. A strong primary challenger meant Biden would lose. Should Biden have been convinced to not seek re-election sooner? Yes. But that's still his decision.

The time for Biden to step aside would have been right after the midterms. Maybe behind the scenes Harris tried to convince Biden, but she clearly failed. Maybe Biden really was at the top of his game and no one saw it until his debate performance, but I'm not sure anyone really believes that. Publicly Team Biden said he was doing backflips around the White House, but of course when the public saw him he was your typical old man.

So... whos to blame? I blame the Democratic party/DNC at large. It's clear to me most people who vote Democrat want someone more progressive. The DNC would rather play it safe.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Biden shouldn't have just done the Johnson "I will not seek, nor will I accept..." He should have stepped down as President in 2022 and let Harris run the incumbent bump through 2024.

    I don't believe that would have made a difference, but it was the best shot at a '24 win.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I agree with the pledge, I disagree Biden should have stepped down.

    A full Democrat primary with a wide range of fresh faces and pitching their ideas for the future. The last election was the same old Biden versus the same old Trump. Sure we did get a last minute change and I think Kamala did an OK job but she should have had a much harder pivot.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Then you have the same problem, nobody was going to tell the sitting VP she had no business being the candidate and you have the DNC putting their thumb on the scale same as they did for Clinton in 2016 and Biden in 2020.

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Nobody cares, Kamala. You promised you'd fight and then you disappeared. Your 15 minutes are over.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Nobody can tell a sitting President not to run. People want to play it like taking away Paw Paw's car keys, but this is not the same.

    It was on Biden to make the call, he made the call too late.

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    [–] 36 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not as reckless as her decision to support arming Israel

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Got to love the political post failure book industry

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Also undemocratic...

    But Kamala never would have gotten a shot in a democratic system either.

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  • If you are leaving your choice to run for president to another, I highly doubt your own leadership capabilities.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    At least she finally got it right. I'll be happy when we stop paying attention to her and she is a weird footnote in history. Dropped out before the primaries even started, but ended up a presidential candidate. What a farce.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    At least she finally got it right.

    Not really.

    But the former vice president defended the former president's ability to do his job while criticizing those close to him for unflattering media coverage.

    She still claims Biden was fit for the job and that it's journalists fault for not "flattering him" enough in the news. Basically she thinks they lost because there wasn't enough positive propaganda circulating around in typical status quo liberal fashion. Everything is always about optics and never about actual substance.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Man.. Yall remember when lemmy was being used as a controlled opposition narrational echo chamber for this failure of a candidate?

    When posting anything showing that Harris was making bad decisions would result in bans?

    Fucking amazing how those power posters disappeared like farts in the wind.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yep! When I used my world account I would constantly see users like FlyingSquid, PugJesus, a few admins, etc. post propaganda and dog pile any dissenters.

    The few times I posted long comments with sufficient data as a backup, I was called a Russia shill, tankie, or a secret MAGA plant.

    Now the few stragglers remaining still try to white wash their fuck ups and claim they're leftists and whatnot. All of them just became the embodiment of Blue MAGA

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    FlyingSquid was/ is one of the worst. They would regularly flame out, accuse some one of antisemitism (literally, like almost every time), then ban the counter party. Its why c/PoliticalMemes and c/World are such insufferable echo chambers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    FlyingSquid and PugJesus posted non stop slop about the campaign constantly, it almost felt like reddit again.

    Never got banned from world, but man did I spend a solid day going around to all of these shill posters saying "I told you so" after calling out dems losing easily a year in advance.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    You know isnt it kind of interesting that they kept claiming they people like us were just "right wing shills that would disappear after the election" and yet its they who've disappeared from lemmy out of the blue not long after the election?

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