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[–] 147 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If he claims that number then the real number closer to 2500.

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  • [–] 85 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I’m guessing 30-60k, based on the density of participants and their initial estimates on crowd size. They expected 200k and most seats were empty as they grew more distant. Why would you prepare for 5-10x your projected crowd? No, they just had a poor showing between the weather and the approval rating.

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  • [–] 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Because a lot of actually-cool trolls signed up for the parade with no intention of actually attending

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't think the weather had anything to do with it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    Absolutely did. They considered cutting the parade short because of it, so it was at least unpleasant. I’m not going to misattribute trump’s successes and failures. Internet people on the left were dumbfounded by trump’s electoral success, and I attempt to avoid following in their footsteps.

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  • [–] 194 points 1 year ago (42 children)

    The "No Kings" events drew A LOT more than 4 million.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The magic number to reach the 3.5% "Tipping Point" is about 12 million. We didn't hit that on No Kings day, but we did pretty well. With protests scattered around the country, it's hard to have an accurate count, but the massive crowds in large cities across America have to be intimidating to the MAGA Nazis.

    It's important to understand that while they want to have 12 million VISIBLE protesters, there are MANY more resistors at home who would never attend a protest for various reasons. Those people are still resistors in their own way, even if it's just staying free of conservative propaganda and voting Democrat. Then there are people like me, who are unlikely to go to a demonstration, but actively oppose the MAGA Nazis online, in forums like Lemmy.

    Add the keyboard warriors to the physical protesters, and that 3.5%/ 12 million Tipping Point looks a lot closer.

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  • [–] 95 points 1 year ago (31 children)

    G. Elliot Morris on Bluesky did a breakdown of the numbers and his very conservative, low-end number was 4mil. Top end was 6mil.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Not all. 5 million is an undercount from what I saw.

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  • [+] -53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (22 children)

    With a U.S. population of 340.11 million (Wikipedia number) that's 1.18 - 1.76%. That's... pretty pathetic considering what was being protested.

    1 - 2 people out of every 100 in America stand against fascism, the rest... who knows?

    Edit: at this rate more Americans will have downvoted my comments than bothered to say they're opposed to fascism. No wonder you elected a reality TV star with mush for brains as your leader. Well done, you took to the streets, but not enough of you, not while you're still free to do so. Get good or suffer the consequences. You've seen what's coming, do something about it. If only 1-2 out of 100 of you can be arsed to say no, then the jackboots will take that as a green light to do what they want. After that, getting more numbers to show up will become increasingly difficult. Now is your chance, seize it while you still can. Don't just clap yourself on the back, say "well done, we showed them" and go back to your day job as if life is back to normal. Do as the French do, keep protesting until your demands are met.

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  • [–] 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

    GTFO. It was the third largest in US history. For that many people to mobilize and organize in this country was something to be proud of, and I am the first to admit how cynical I am and unimpressed by the response we've made so far.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size

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  • [+] -24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

    For context:

    5% of the Italian population protested the Iraq war.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_anti-war_protests

    Approximately two million people joined their hands to form a human chain spanning 690 kilometres (430 mi) across the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which at the time were occupied and annexed by the USSR and had a combined population of approximately eight million.[2]

    That's 25% of the population.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Way

    3.3% of the Phillipines population protested in 1986 whilst under a dictatorship.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution

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    37.5% of the US population watched the Super Bowl in 2025 but less than 2% protested a fascist takeover of the country. Shows your priorities. The downvotes also really tell that your feels are hurt more than caring about the reals of the situation.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_television_ratings

    Edit 2: 200k just marched in The Netherlands against genocide. That's 1.09% of their population marching for an issue that doesn't even personally affect them, because they have principles. But y'all can't even get double that for an issue that will personally effect the rest of your lives. Shame.

    https://lemmy.world/post/31485267

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    GTFO. They're waking up. Get over yourself.

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  • [+] -19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    4 years of the alarm ringing, a 4 year snooze, and then 6 months of the alarm ringing again is an awfully long time to take to wake up. All whilst living in the "richest" country in the world, with the freedom to carry guns, and say what you want. That's... Even more pathetic than I first thought.

    Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed seeing the pictures and videos of thousands, millions, of people marching, but you can do better.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You’re comparing one day protests to weeks or months long protests.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago

    Was No Kings truly a one day protest when there's been anti-Trump protests dotted around for weeks? It's one part of a larger group of protests.

    All of the numbers I took were for one day turnouts. They're comparable.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    "3.3% is pathetic considering what they were protesting" 🙄 that's how you sound.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Then you've not engaged your brain.

    How easy was communication in 1986 compared to now?

    How easy was mobilisation, in an island nation, under a dictatorship?

    Americans still have most of their freedoms, use them before you lose them.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Then you've not engaged your brain.

    Fuck off.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I mean you are including all babies and people in nursing homes and in prison and in the military and have jobs that they can't not go to and in psych facilities. Its still pathetic really but just pointing out using the whole population is a bit off. Also really rural is sorta hard. I can say the folks driving and being inconvenienced by it seemed jazzed and supportive in their honks and call outs (you can tell pissed off from alright) and there were folks in building windows shouting encouragement. I guess im saying I have seen protests get a lot less nice of reactions to people not in them.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Are you kidding me? When Minnesota’s were basically cancelled due to political violence and who knows how many people had to work? 1-2% of the entire population is fucking huge.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    98.5% of the population had to work on a Saturday?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Or have family shit, or are just too tired, or are sick, traveling, in fear of repercussions, have to get the car serviced, take the pet to the vet, are dealing with the fallout of tornadoes/fires/flooding, etc., etc., etc..

    There’s a million reasons why people can’t attend an event they support. I’d say 10-20x the turnout would be the real number of supportive numbers.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's an awful lot of excuses for allowing fascism to proliferate.

    Democracy isn't just ticking a box every 4-5 years and being done with it.

    If you don't want to live under autocracy then you need to actually show up and make your voice heard.

    37.5% of the US population could make time to watch the Super Bowl but less than 2% could make time to walk through their town/city centre? Shameful.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Source? Everything I read said 4-5 iirc

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I’m not seeing any real source here besides one account making a claim?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Further, it happens to hit the magical "3.5%" number everyone was throwing around.

    Maybe it's correct and others will vouch for it, analysize, but an estimate that's significantly higher than an already decently high number that bridges the apparent gap to the 3.5% number almost exactly seems too conveniently on point, like someone wanted to stretch the numbers as little as possible while still hitting the designated number.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's based on a thoughtful, rigorous analysis, but that 3.5% number is full of caveats. The fact that anyone regards it as a hard threshold is a sign of how easily nuance is lost on social media.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just the multiplier alone - take any individual protest and multiply it by over 2,000 … gets big fast.

    I actually had five very convenient choices

    • should I go into Boston for the big one, to really showcase our strength?
    • should I goto Lexington for the historical context, the commemorating the start of the revolutionary war, throwing off the yoke of the king?
    • should I goto my ex’s town, if she had the kids?
    • should I goto the nearby town threats a collection of malls, make a day of it and get shopping done?
    • no, I’ll goto to MY town, stand up with MY town. We had a couple thousand very enthusiastic protesters in MY town and it was awesome
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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I’ll bet he’s seething today. Like ketchup on the walls, needing 20+ diaper changes seething. Probably didn’t sleep last night because he was glued to the teevee, clicking through news reports and getting angrier by the minute at the coverage.

    Whomever runs interference was likely up all night trying to find favourable articles to print to placate him during his briefing this morning, and it didn’t work. They probably had to dodge a hurled half-empty Diet Coke as they scurried away.

    His narcissistic injury must be yuge. I hope it was. (Though we’ll all pay for it soon, this image is worth it.)

    (e come to think of it, we’d be better off if he had an actual jester. I totally get the point of them now.)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    come to think of it, we’d be better off if he had an actual jester. I totally get the point of them now.

    Maybe that's what Elon was for. Unfortunately he sucked at his job.

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  • [–] 81 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    The population of the DC metro area is about 6.3 million people.

    Even as an embellished number, 250k is weak sauce.

    For comparison:

    The Bristol Day Parade (longest continually running 4th of July parade in the US) draws around 200k, and that's in fucking Rhode Island with a paltry 1m population. And Rhode Islanders don't like long drives or traffic. I'm 40, lived in RI/SEMA my whole life, and never went.

    Macy's Thanksgiving Parade draws 2.5M. 1M spend NYE in Times Square.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's on the wrong side of the bay. I'm not going all that way for a fucking parade.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Yeah that's the other thing. It's in Bristol!

    That's practically Massachusetts! And not even like, Boston...it's like...Swansea. Suburban, nearly rural.

    To get from Providence, you practically have to go into Massachusetts first.

    To get from Warwick (where PVD airport is) or points south, you have to take the Pell bridge, which is a toll road, in addition to a bridge. Iirc, the only toll road in RI for 2-axle vehicles...so not a lot of people even really have EZPass. And you gotta cross the Jamestown Bridge first.

    These are all things most Rhode Islanders loathe doing.

    And yet despite that, it gets 80% of what Trump claimed his draw was. Pathetic.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    My neighboring state has toll roads that I drive on 2-3 times a year and I have ezpass to reduce hassle. If there were toll roads in my state it’d be a no brainer.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yeah but you don't understand the mentality of a Rhode Islander.

    Rhode Islanders only take the Mass Pike if they have to. Very little reason to go to Western MA, 495 goes to the Cape, and 93/95 to NH.

    They only go to Connecticut for Foxwoods/Mohegan or Mystic. No tolls on that route.

    Other than that, the only way they are leaving the state is on a Southwest flight to MCO or FLL.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They're probably including people watching online or on TV. Which makes those numbers even more pathetic.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Yeah compared to a grassroots risky protest against a militant wannabe dictator with the morning starting off with political murders by the opponent.

    I saw all kinds of people protesting in the least likely areas. One image burned into my brain from Saturday was a solemn older couple, walking alone, she hunched over with a walker, him walking beside her, with a no kings sign and a billowing American flag in the sunlight. I was afraid to protest and almost started crying when I drove by.

    I will NEVER forget that sight.

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  • [+] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I heard it was only 8647 people that showed......

    /s

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    If you subtract the military personal who were ordered to attend, that sounds like a very reasonable guess. Maybe they could get swag like the 1%ers. Hats and T-shirts with "I'm one of the 8647 TRUE Americans!"

    Somebody please do this.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Apparently 90% of Trump parade's attendees were wearing very good camoflage, or maybe advanced army stealth technology!

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    The crowd for trump’s parade didn’t even top 10,000 people

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I doubt those numbers for the simple reason trump always lies about how many attended his narcissistic supply events.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Looks like there's a lot more real Americans than traitors in this country.

    Time to take the gloves off and let them know it.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    More than 10 times ? Good for No Kings.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    That has way less views than even an old episode of "Friends".

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    How many of them were there willingly?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And Trump is an uncurable liar. So how many actually attended?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Sadly proper estimates seem to be lacking, but looking at crowd images, it can't be more than a few thousand. Maybe 10k-20k if you're being really generous. As one commenter put it, "It's not a big crowd if you've got room to throw a football without annoying anyone."

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    What a surprise, he and his people inflate the numbers. Surprised they didn't say, "Largest attendance for a military parade in history!"

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm too lazy to find it but insert Nelson ha-ha gif here

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  • I didn't realise most of the people who attended were microscopic! So that's why they weren't visible

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    This is such a historical protest

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wikipedia says no kings had 13 million

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Weird interpretation of “over 5 million”

    Edit: elsewhere in the Wikipedia article it says “4-6”. Not seeing anything like 13

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The edit log for that page is already around 1500 entries by the look of it? So it would not surprise me if there was an edit to 13, then a few minutes later a reversion or additional edit.

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