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[–] [S] 45 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Explanation: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was a 'non-aggression' pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany which outlined carving up Eastern Europe between the two polities. In accordance with the pact, the Soviet Union invaded Poland with Nazi Germany in 1939.

Soviet apologists often claim that it was 'just' a non-aggression pact, which raises the question why the fuck they were assisting Nazi Germany genocide Poland, and why the pact involved carving up the Baltic states. The Soviets would go on to supply Nazi Germany with important war materiel until 1941, when the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union.

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 1 year ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Commercial_Agreement_(1940)

    While some slowdowns and negotiations occurred especially during the early negotiations of specific orders,[3]: 105  the Soviet Union met most of its requirements under the agreement.[18]: 108  It became a major supplier of vital materials to Germany, including petroleum, manganese, copper, nickel, chrome, platinum, lumber, and grain.[19]

    The Soviet Union also bought and shipped other materials to Germany, such as rubber[19] from India.[18]: 110  The Soviets shipped approximately 800 million deutschmarks of goods.[18]: 110 

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Can you actually reason with an authoritarian about politics in the first place?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago*

    Cowbee @ lemmy . ml has an entire essay prepared about how they were actually “protecting” Poland from the Nazis by invading it. if you mention the brutal soviet repression of the polish in response they will call fake news lol.

    Fascinating the lengths they go for apologia narratives.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Tankies must have amazing oral skills the way they suck off Stalin 🥵.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Does it even really matter if they where the good or bad guys during ww2? It changes nothing about them invading Ukraine.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The second polish republic was an authoritarian regime though. I agree with everything else in the meme, the last pannel just makes it rhetorically look like that's not the case.

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  • [+] -35 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    THE POLES WERE NAZIS

    Kinda like saying the Southern states aren't filled with a bunch of racists anymore after they lost the civil war in the US.

    Those people never left, they had kids, grew communities, kids got taught, and it's now today.

    What's changed again?

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Kinda like saying the Southern states aren’t filled with a bunch of racists anymore after they lost the civil war in the US.

    Those people never left, they had kids, grew communities, kids got taught, and it’s now today.

    What’s changed again?

    The meme is about the Soviets allying with the Nazis to invade Poland in 1939.

    Not really sure what point you think you're making here.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    The comparison they are making is that Poles are still nazis like the southerners are still racists. So I guess they buy into the tankie propaganda?

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Obviously as a false claim it's irrelevant to the meme. Even if that were true, though, it would be irrelevant to the meme?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It is the same thing as the last panel...

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The last panel is claiming the Poles, at the time, were Nazis.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Kinda like saying the Southern states aren’t filled with a bunch of racists anymore after they lost the civil war in the US.

    Those people never left, they had kids, grew communities, kids got taught, and it’s now today.

    What’s changed again?

    That wording sounds much more like they're accusing modern Poles of being Nazis after Nazi occupation.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They are saying things haven't changed because children were taught the same thing their parents believed. Aka they are racist because their parents were racist = they are nazis because their parents were nazis.

    They are saying nothing changed because Poland was already full of nazis. They are spouting the same bullshit as the last panel.

    Those people never left, they had kids, grew communities, kids got taught, and it’s now today.

    What’s changed again?

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    [–] [S] 16 points 1 year ago

    Explanation: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was a 'non-aggression' pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany which outlined carving up Eastern Europe between the two polities. In accordance with the pact, the Soviet Union invaded Poland with Nazi Germany in 1939.

    Soviet apologists often claim that it was 'just' a non-aggression pact, which raises the question why the fuck they were assisting Nazi Germany genocide Poland, and why the pact involved carving up the Baltic states. The Soviets would go on to supply Nazi Germany with important war materiel until 1941, when the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The fun part about these posts is guessing whether it'll be a tankie apologia magnet or too spicy for them to even try. I'm guessing the latter but I've been surprised before.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We're on tankiejerk. Tankies who show up here catch a ban.

    I think most of the usual suspects can no longer show up here, though they might surprise me.

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