Instead of unalias ls to avoid having just ls send ANSI color escape codes to the terminal, he should really have passed the term argument to agetty, like maybe dumb.

EDIT: At 10:22, where he starts typing the login, it looks like the teletype does seek back up to reposition the cursor at "LOGIN:", so it does support at least some limited escape codes. Maybe something a little smarter than dumb.

Hell, maybe there's even an existing terminfo/termcap entry for a compatible teletype.

EDIT2:

$ infocmp -D|xargs -i% find % -type f|xargs -n1 basename|xargs -n1 infocmp|less

Will give a searchable list of supported terminfo entries on a given Linux system.

On Debian trixie, I don't see an entry for a Model 15 Teletype, but they do have an entry for a "model 33 or 35 teletype", tty33.

EDIT3: Searching eBay, looks like there are apparently teletype machines available on eBay, though some additional poking around suggests that that may not be the most affordable way to get one.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Teletype/comments/g30rdi/where_to_buy_first_teletype/

EDIT4: Oh, looking at the agetty command line, he passed "asr33", for the term parameter, which is apparently a (much, much newer than the machine he has) teletype machine, but it shouldn't support color, so I don't know why he'd be worried about that. Maybe his ls aliased to ls --color=always instead of ls --color=auto or something; they don't show it in the video. Or maybe unaliasing it wasn't necessary, and he just didn't realize it.

That is insane!

Shit that beats out connecting my 90s serial equipped typewriter to use as a terminal output.

glad I watched the whole thing, that is amazing

Damn, but we can be so creative!

I was watching the thing and got to the part where he said that he was using XON/XOFF flow control and thought that the guy's Arduino RS-232 ASCII-to-Baudot-encoding thing could be made more efficient if he'd make the encoder use the RS-232 RTS/CTS lines instead of XON/XOFF encoding. Then I realized that he's converting to 45.5 baud, and that at that speed, even his 9600 baud line

normally the chokepoint for people with modern hardware, you know, 1980s and on or so

is blisteringly fast and inefficiency at that point is irrelevant.

That was a complete rabbit hole. Thanks.

The only thing possibly more epic would be converting a Linotype to a Linux terminal. It uses hot lead to create type for newspapers, etc.

I was trained to use one as there were so many in use they still have some niche applications for specialty printing.

Anyhow, I call them Satan’s Typewriters and still have small scars from hot lead all over my forearms. And I love technology.

A good film:

Linotype: The Film

Can anything not play Doom?

https://github.com/wojciech-graj/doom-ascii

The frame rate may be somewhat limited, but dealing with that is really just a skill issue.

You can crack a cacodemon over the noggin with it.

Check out the Olivetti pcs!

Huh, cool!

And they tell me printing pdfs to read is waste!

Well, interoffice memos.

Terminal emulators are bloat

The Linux kernel itself contains a terminal emulator

that's how you can swap among virtual terminals on the console

and unless the code was rewritten at some point, that's really the true core of Linux; the Linux kernel originally was a terminal emulator, before the other stuff got added. Before Linus even made his first announcement, when it was still a purely one-man project that he was banging on:

https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-very-first-interview-about-linux

The very first interview about Linux with Linus Torvalds - Oct 28, 1992

LN: Please give a short summary of the history of Linux.

Linus: Difficult. "Linux" didn't really exist until about August-91 - before that what I had was essentially just a very basic protected mode system that had evolved from a glorified "Hello world" program into a even more glorified terminal emulator. Linux stopped for quite a while at the terminal emulator stage: I played around with Minix, and used my protected mode program to read news from the univerity machine. No down/upload, but it did a fair vt100 emulation, and did it by using two tasks which communicated from keybodard->modem and modem->screen.

By mid-summer -91, "Linux" was able to read the disk (joyful moment), and eventually had a small and stupid disk driver and a simple buffer cache. So I started out trying to make a filesystem, and used the Minix fs for simple practical reasons: that way I already had a file layout I could test things on. After some more programming (talk about glossing things over), I had a very simple UNIX that had some of the basic functionalities of the real thing: I could run small test-programs under it.

That being said, I think that most people are probably using the framebuffer console these days

you aren't usually talking to your graphics card in text mode on x86-64 machines, but rather in graphics mode, and an image of text is being rendered and handed to the graphics card, and I don't know if internally, the original virtual terminal code is used beneath that or if there's a different stack and two independent in-kernel virtual terminal emulators.

They've at least chosen to not include !.

Ah, my apologies. Just a sheet of normal ISO A4 printer paper. Nothing fancy.

I've never actually lol'ed at a Linux meme until today.

Alright

The topping of this is going to require 220 lb 100% cotton vellum-finish cardstock and someone equipped with a calligraphy pen. There are some plotters that can take fountain pens.

Like a TTY?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleprinter

That's literally card punchers.

Edit: better link, with video.

Thanks!

Surprisingly, just one. I did make a couple of mistakes, though. (e.g. typing an 8 instead of a ' on the bottom-left corner of the arch, and adding the dashes after 9.9.9.9 in the ping output instead of later on).

Ah, well I'm not too sure. The typewriter itself came from a charity shop, and my grandma bought me the ribbon. I have only owned it for a few days, so I haven't bought anything myself.

There'll be plenty of places online, though, and of course you do have !typewriters@lemmy.cafe at your disposal.

Anyone remember The Boy With Immovable Hair (TBWIH)?

Not certain of whether you're thinking specifically of plain ASCII art or also ANSI art (which was specifically around that time and made use of PC drawing characters and ANSI escape sequences), but there's a software package called ansilove that will render ANSI art, as well as some related text art formats, into an image for viewing.

https://www.ansilove.org/

It's packaged in Debian Trixie.

https://16colo.rs/ is a gallery of ANSI art. A lot of the thumbnails are in grayscale, but tap on them and they'll open up and have a lot of colorful artwork.

Nope, typewriter

Just like vegans, I'm fairly certain it's a loud minority that ruin it for the rest of us.

xD