For me it's Peggy from Mad Men. At first I thought she was going to be an annoyance but half way through the first season I've grown to absolutely love her!

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[–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hank Schrader - Breaking Bad. It started out from Ep 1 like “oh, this fucking guy 😒”. By the end of the road I was actually rooting for him. His arc was incredible.

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  • [+] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    I’m curious which comic you read exactly? I’m questioning the comment about the always “blind and unreasonable patriotism” you mentioned.

    Cap in the comics continually goes against the government and corruption since his re-introduction in the 60s. He’s always been a man for the people.

    He talks about the American Dream and wears the Stars and Stripes specifically because he is fighting for what America should be and has continuously been about fighting to ensure that all people are provided equity and inclusion. He even threw away the costume and became Nomad for a while because he was so disgusted with America (the storyline mimicked Nixon and Watergate). He’s fought nationalists, nazis, and neo nazis.

    Edit: not trying to downplay your personal feelings. I’m just generally curious what you read because that’s not my experience from reading an omnibus containing 60’s to mid-2000’s.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I could probably recommend some. Do you want Steve Rogers, Sam Wilson, or Bucky Barnes versions?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Sure thing, I had to look up issues because I couldn’t remember as I read them years ago. Some of these will be campy because they are old, but they are some good stories:

    • Cap 193-200 (Madbomb)
    • Captain America 253-254 (Baron Blood story —> the Civil War MCU movie has a moment that parallels what happens in this comic but different outcome)
    • Cap 372-378 (Streets of Poison)
    • Cap 450-453 (Man Without a Country)
    • Civil War (not a Cap comic per se, but a good arc)
    • Cap 170-176 (Secret Empire)

    There’s probably a lot more like his fights with Nuke, fights with US Agent, his partnership with Falcon and being a White patriotic symbol partnered with a Black man (Sam Wilson - Falcon) from Harlem, Winter Soldier, and a lot newer ones

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Mr. Peanutbutter from Bojack Horseman. We go from seeing him the way Bojack does, an irritating rival; to seeing him as comic relief; to seeing him as a very relatable, very tragic character who damages all his relationships due to his inability or unwillingness to take responsibility for his own life, someone who has been desperately lonely and depressed but never allowed himself to realize it because he's been masking so hard and so long he believes the mask is all there is.

    I've never identified so much with any character on film or television, and it's a fucking cartoon dog.

    And then Bandit from Bluey comes along and like the man said, I've only got ten cents but it's weird that it happened twice.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Hunter from The Owl House.
    Thought he was going to be the usual overpowered for no reason jerk, but ended up being one of my favorite characters with extremely deep lore and an amazing arc.

    Man I love The Owl House so much.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nynaeve from Wheel of Time. All her quirks become endearing and her growth is so satisfying.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Every single character from Arrested Development.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Renoir from Clair Obscur: Expedition 33. Very misunderstood character at the beginning. And for me, redeemed himself when I started to peice things together. Ended up being one of my favorite characters.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Syril Karn from Andor. From the very first scene he was in, I asked, "oh God, when's this little fucker gonna die?" By the end of the show he was probably my favorite character.

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Sally from Barry. I absolutely despise the core of her character but she plays it so well that I absolutely love her too

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    Dalinar from The Stormlight Archives. At first I just wanted to skip his bits and get back to other characters.

    After 5 books, though? One of my favorite characters in the whole Cosmere.

    Journey before destination.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Lae'zel from BG3 and Haley from Stardew Valley.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nathan from Misfits.

    I legit hated his character in the first half and ended up loving that rascal in the second half.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you haven’t seen the umbrella academy you should watch it just to see Nathan’s actor absolutely killing it in that role, he does such an incredible job. He brings a lot of the same humour but a lot of depth and actual character development that misfits had… less of 😂

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The Queen from Once upon a time. She felt more and more human throughout the show.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Scorpius in Farscape.

    He was introduced long after the main antagonist, Captain Bilar Crais, was firmly established. Suddenly the Captain was shoved aside for this new monstrous weirdo who's motivation seems a bit contrived.

    Scorpius is absolutely fantastic. Wayne Pygram absolutely knocked it out of the park and then some with portraying both Scorpius and Harvey throughout the rest of the series. Probably one of the best written and acted villains in television history.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Well since you named "anything" as an included category, here's a random one: Aila from high rollers: Aerois

    For a less obscure one.. Reigen from Mob Psycho 100 ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Maeve, thought she would be a typical popular girl

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Ianthe from The Locked Tomb. She grated on me at first but somewhere into the second book I was just delighted at her terribleness.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Lestat

    After finishing Interview With A Vampire and finding out Lestat is the main character of the rest of the series, I was like "well, at least the first book was good, I don't know how I'm supposed to like a book with this douche"

    Shortly afterwards: [[Arrested Development meme]] I don't care for Louis

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Askeladd/Artorius from Vinland Saga season 1

    Highly recommended, by the way

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Koutarou Amon from Tokyo Ghoul

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