The big money on both sides is invested in the same places.

The rest follows from that.

Its so stupid to me that we've now reached the point that politicians don't even pretend to be public servants anymore. They're just paypigs doing whatever the money wants. Used to be, a campaign donation got you a "hi how are ya" and maybe a thank you card after the election. They sent you money and it was nice of them because you needed it.

Now with kamala, she got the largest grassroots fundraising of any candidate in history and what does she do? Listen to a bunch of rich fucks who gave the maximum contribution. I bet they all voted for Trump too. She's either the most incompetent and gullible politician in american history or the dnc are fascist collaborators. The way she turned away from every popular idea she had makes it seem like she was told to lose. Im sure its been fucking great for her brother tho.

The Dems though paint this like it’s a “necessary evil” they just have to accept all these donations from the ultra wealthy because you can’t win any other way

So the position starts off cynically pragmatic, and cynical pragmatism makes for a shitty rallying cry.

But then it doesn’t even work. They sell out to get the big money donations and then lose.

Ineffective cynical pragmatism is an even worse rallying cry.

And any time you get a Sanders or a Mamdani that shows a different path to success they go “oh sure that worked for them but it wouldn’t work anywhere else, only our cynical pragmatism works everywhere as long as you ignore all these electoral defeats”

The Dems though paint this like it’s a “necessary evil” they just have to accept all these donations from the ultra wealthy because you can’t win any other way

So the position starts off cynically pragmatic, and cynical pragmatism makes for a shitty rallying cry.

But then it doesn’t even work. They sell out to get the big money donations and then lose.

Ineffective cynical pragmatism is an even worse rallying cry.

And any time you get a Sanders or a Mamdani that shows a different path to success they go “oh sure that worked for them but it wouldn’t work anywhere else, only our cynical pragmatism works everywhere as long as you ignore all these donations from electoral defeats”

She did that in 2020...

There was only a very very brief window she pretended to be slightly progressive, but it was an act everyone saw thru, and the dumbasses that were running the party till this year just threw her with Biden because they legitimately thought Black woman equals progressive vote.

Everyone held their noses for Biden because he was the only option, so they just tried to double down on it. It's what happens when a party is corrupt, the people who rise to the top are the ones willing to do anything for donations, because that was the sole metric the old guard cared about.

If you could raise money for their shitty candidate, you got promoted. So we ended up with over a billion dollar campaign that was almost certainly a grift and a complete waste of money from state parties that handed trump the House.

Now, all that being said...

The voting members of the DNC did finally wake up and elected a chair who wouldn't fight against the party's own base. Martin ran Minnesota for a decade, made it solid blue, and home to some of our most progressive politicians and highschool football coach Tim Walz as governor.

If he's a neoliberal bought off by billionaires and AIPAC, then he's absolute dog shit at stopping progressives in primaries, and it's completely illogical that he kept supporting them in the general.

We got an equal playing field for the first time since the 90s.

We just need to get people to show up in the primary. We can't fucking waste this chance.

Centrist? She campaigned with Cheney. That’s right wing.

She was at the center between fascism and conservatism.

I mean I'm not sure Bernie is that woke, much as I love him, but that's pretty much the view from over here.

The news isn't that the Democratic party is bought and paid for by the oligarchy. The news is that Bernie has stopped playing nice with the DNC.

A third of your comment is a disclaimer that democrats arent exactly the same as Republicans. Sorry, you are well below the 69% threshold, and are now a secret Republican nazi Russian communist who loves trump with all your heart! /$

If only being correct has value with society at large...

An oil producing enthostate governed by a neoliberal plutocracy?

I think we already tried that under Bush, Obama, and Biden.

No no no. She ran a perfect campaign.

I have it on good authority that she was stabbed in the back by far-left, transgender, pro-Putin antisemites.

Next time - and there will be a next time, it's her turn - she needs to be even more friendly with moderate Republicans and win back the Joe Rogan demographic. The Democrats need their own Jordan Peterson. They need their own Yeomni Park. They need their own Curtis Yarvin. They need their own X, The Everything App.

That is the only way to win the coveted American swing voter.

We choose the lesser evil. Now, look what happened when people don't act and give up.

Now we're just gonna bleed to death.

This is the liberal media distraction from the Trump Epstein files. It gives us anything to read about that isn't one of the 4 major dictators. Xi, Putin, Trump, or Netanyahu. Also allows the liberals to further balkanize into even smaller groups.

Thanks for doing the leg work. USA Today is slop.

Are we reddit now

Pretty much. Have you gone on Reddit? It's literally the same posts as Lemmy. We're a filtered version that isn't controlled by a corporation but almost all the content here still comes directly from Reddit

The door is open for her

As far as I know, one could be elected as California Governer in 26 and still legally run for president in 28, but it would be a lot, and open to attack for using CA as a stepping stone etc

Kamala not going for CA governor in 26 is being used as evidence for a 28 presidential run - it is kinda tenuous, but not completely out of nothing

Some green parties considering all of their policies are conflicts of interests with billionaires?

Greens in Australia do not take donations from corporations or property developers.

https://greens.org.au/campaigns/dirty-donations

They are the third largest party and hold balance of power in the Senate.

Mario Party

We don't actually need the files to eject the occupant of the whitehouse from that residence. I mean, We The People are in charge. We just have to decide to do it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/30/kamala-harris-has-more-billionaires-prominently-backing-her-than-trump-bezos-and-griffin-weigh-in-updated/