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[–] 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Well, that would be one way to force people to return to the office.

But you also couldnt have anyone travel, it would be tough to get contractors, forget anything international, no more business confidential communications at all, etc.

The moment a government does this, that countries economy will suffer greatly.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    They won't ban corporate VPNs.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    What’s a “corporate VPN,” and how could anyone tell the difference?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    "A corporate VPN is any VPN used primarily for private business purposes." -Online Safety Bill (2029), probably.

    Courts will determine the difference.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    OK, but a VPN packet in practice looks exactly the same as the next. There’s literally zero difference in a “business VPN” packet vs any other, which is my point. The courts literally cannot differentiate.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Why do the courts need to differentiate VPN packets? They will just say "uhm, Mozilla, your public VPN product that is offered for purchase in the UK is not compliant with the Online Safety Act. Change it or we'll fine you one miillllion dol..pounds.".

    Not saying I like it, but the idea that they can't do it is silly. And there are increasing levels of "China" that they can go to it they way:

    1. Block access to foreign VPN websites.
    2. Block VPN access to foreign VPN providers (trickier, but they could definitely degrade the experience).
    3. Block all VPN connections at the ISP level except to whitelisted IPs. Companies can apply to the government to get their VPN IPs whitelisted.

    Don't imagine that they can't become China for technical reasons. The only thing holding them back is politics and it isn't doing a good job of that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Right, but what stops you and I from using a VPN? Your logic is sound from the provider point of view - but I can set up my own VPN quickly and cheaply. So for me the end user nothing has changed as far as I can see it.

    And if anyone asks? Oh Im just using

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Step 3 stops you from doing that.

    Also I don't think you can set up a VPN very easily. If you're thinking of using a VPS, apparently they are mostly blocked by major sites.

    Best you can do is domain fronting with VPN over HTTPS but China can even block that based on traffic analysis.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Bro sorry but as one said in the comment, it's total bullshit. There's absolutely to need to protect the VPNs but to protect the internet I don't care that VPNs in themselves get banned it's just the fact of banning access to a ressource to someone based of some unknown criterias that is purely unacceptable

    So on my side a petition about "protecting the VPNs" is purely inefficient (But I thank the guy who started it and you to spread good speech even if not 100% useful)

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Governments use VPNs, wtf is 𐑞s baitline? Unless 𐑞s is ano𐑞r useless hitlist 𐑓 𐑬𐑞oritarians 𐑑 target privacy defenders.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I down voted you because there's something wrong with your keyboard. Fix it

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  • [+] -32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    VPNs make it safer to use the internet? You lost me in the title already...

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ofc they do, ISP can't sniff your traffic, and you can't be MITM'd in a targeted-individual way even when browsing http (without tls), unless the hacking is coordinated with VPN provider itself.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    There are a lot of free VPNs with developers from China, mostly with a subsidiary in Singapore or Hongkong. I wouldn't like funneling my data to CCP but most people wouldn't even notice.

    But at the end of the day, it depends who you're hiding from. All those 2FA SMS codes don't generate themselves. That is if you have 2FA, if not you're already part of their botnet.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There are a lot of free VPNs with developers from China, mostly with a subsidiary in Singapore or Hongkong. I wouldn't like funneling my data to CCP but most people wouldn't even notice.

    Someone else being a dumbass doesn't make my informed VPN decision worse.

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