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[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Immunity won't stop Trump from getting spooked and Epsteining her.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket [S] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Seriously. She's in a terrible position. Whatever she does, she's at risk of some insane consequences.

Of course, she deserves it, she's being treated way better than what she did. Oh well. Play stupid games.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do you mean? All she has to do is go up there and weave together the biggest lie ever. She just has to check the boxes: Epstein bad, me victim, Trump not involved, don't blow the whole global pedo ring

And in exchange she gets freedom, maybe even part of Epstein's estate. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if she gets a position in the administration... She has him by the short hairs and is pouncing on her chance. He didn't want to pardon her, he wanted this all to go away. His justice department delayed several times before not recommending hearing an appeal.

There's no testimony she can give that doesn't fuel this fire, so why was Trump's personal lawyer meeting with her?

They're laundering her reputation already in preparation

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[–] PhilipTheBucket [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Well, but even in the current government, there are people who aren't MAGA people in congress, who get to ask her questions and bring up discrepancies between what she said before and what she's saying now. And she has to think on her feet for those questions, and the stakes are pretty fuckin' high. And the whole base is fired up with pedo-fury, and it's pretty hard for her to paint herself out of that spotlight no matter what she says... if she's transparently lying (which is what they want her to do), then all of a sudden she's in the crosshairs of both the justice system and the vigilante MAGA-mob, and she really can't change her story later anymore because now she said it all on TV instead of just within a closed system. And, of course, she's guilty as hell, and they can already prove that, so being back in the spotlight (again just completely regardless of what she says) is going to give opportunities for people to talk about all the proof again.

And, none of the Trump people really give a fuck about protecting her from anything. And she knows that. They just want what they want from her, and once they're done, they literally won't give another thought to where she goes, what happens to her, if she lives or dies.

Honestly, Dante Alighieri would be proud. It's kind of perfectly fitting to be honest.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago

No one watches cspan, all she has to do is lie her ass off. The media will do the rest

Fox will edit it down to tell a story of her being a victim, YouTubers will make supercuts of all the times she fails to answer a question, and she's probably going to get immunity going into it

So she just has to endure being yelled at without cracking for a few hours and she walks free. Even more than walking free, she's probably going to fall into a huge pile of money and influence for demonstrating her loyalty to the global pedo cult

She's probably the one who knows where the bodies are buried better than anyone else alive. And she's the one who is initiating this, she's seen an opportunity to be freed and she's pressuring Trump to give it to her

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[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I don't recall putting immunity or a pardon on the table, do any of you? Pieces of paper are not protection, her crimes will follow her until the day she dies.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I hope once she gets her immunity she immediately fingers Trump

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Oh man, like what ... Like damn......perhaps wouldn't be the WORST timeline

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[–] msprout@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago*

Damnit. I wanted to be optimistic and skeptical that this wouldn't happen exactly the way the internet said it would. >:(

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Send the bitch back to prison. Victims speaking out should be enough. Don't need her to know the likes of Trump are pieces of shit.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago*

Where's the enhanced interrogators when you need them?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd love to say fuck no..... but I think she might implicate some pretty big fish.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

You should still say fuck no. Any deal she makes to get a pardon will involve naming no politically unfavourable names - no Trump, none of his cultists, none of his P2025 apparatchiks, none of his billionaire buddies.

It'll be Clintons first, then anyone else who has ever spoken out against his cult. Bet me a thousand real dollars. Bet me anything you like, I'll give you ten to one odds.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago

She’ll probably say some shit like AOC was on the island and the fucking media will eat it up, the lapdogs.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Why would she? It would be a death sentence.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

Markus wrote that their initial reaction to the subpoena was that “Maxwell would invoke her Fifth Amendment rights and decline to testify at this time.”

Double edge sword.

Say she gets immunity for any additional crimes disclosed during deposition, that means she can no longer take the fifth, because nothing she said would implicate herself.

So if someone asked her:

Did you assist trump raping kids?

She would have to admit it, or commit perjury, which she could still be charged with. Those are the only two options.

And if trump actually listens to a lawyer, he'll never let it happen. Who the fuck knows what she'll say. Like, regardless of if she does what trump wants or not, she's likely to be dead in a year tops. And that's only if they're that patient so it doesn't look obvious

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[–] PhilipTheBucket 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

Who the fuck knows what she'll say.

She's been in prison for a while. That has a way of making people agreeable to whatever they're being asked to do or say. And it's not like they're talking about deposing her in a controlled environment, she's just been meeting with various explicitly corrupt Trump people so far, and then she's going to be testifying to the US congress, and that's guaranteed to be a dishonest shit show.

If I were her, my foremost concern would be "which decision is going to be less likely to go sideways on me and get me killed or targeted for some sort of turbo-prison." The answer isn't completely clear, but I think going along with whatever Trump tells her to say is probably marginally safer for her. Marginally.

(As a side note, it's got to be a mindfuck hanging out with this big sloppy loser guy at your coerced-child-sex parties, all fun and games, and then years and years later having that exact same guy have all the power in the world and be, to a large extent, personally in charge of your freedom from prison because of those exact same parties... it's just weird. It's not how the US is supposed to work in any respect, in any aspect, but here we are.)

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago

I've thought for a while the only thing that could motivate her was they threatened to Epstein her if she doesn't...

Which would explain why one of her conditions is doing it outside of prison.

Shed know if she said what Trump wants, she's a loose end as soon as she's free. But dead if she doesn't.

Her one chance is to get outside the prison system, and just fucking flat out say all of that to Congress on live TV. Say trump threatened to kill her and frame it as a suicide and that if she goes back into the prison system and dies it's murder.

Like, her dad was a legit spy that she's always said got whacked when the official story was heart attack. She literally grew up in this shit, she's an evil despicable person, but she knows the game.

She's up against the trump admin after all, it's like beating Wiley Coyote. There's a very real chance shit gets crazy. And whatever happens trump will handle it in the worst possible way.

Like. Imagine if he pulls the plug on cspan right after she says it? A couple minutes due to incompetence and then it cuts out for everyone to assume the worst.