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[–] 165 points 1 year ago* (27 children)

"Those young women were my property!" vibes.

He just keeps digging the hole deeper... for anyone with a brain.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Unfortunately, the “brain” is missing from a lot of people.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    You mean republicans, don’t confuse them with people.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    And some democrats. Let's stop thinking that everyone is defined by the party they belong to.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Shut the fuck up. Don't pretend this is some both sides shit. Establishment dems are guilty of corporate appeasement and corruption. Child sexual predation and abuse isn't an endemic issue within the party like it is with Republicans.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm not pretending pal. It's a human nature universal thing not a limited political party thing. You shut the fuck up and open a book.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So what you're saying is that pedophilia and enabling it is human nature? Is that what you're suggesting?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Are you being willfully ignorant? What I'm saying is that not only Republicans are pedos. I'm done here.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    By saying republicans, are you referring to republican politicians or people who republican?

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  • At this point, there's not much distinction. There's a thoroughly documented amount of sexual predators working as Republican politicians. If you're still supporting the party despite the mountain of high quality evidence of gross misconduct, the only excuse you've got is that you're information sphere hasn't even made mention of it. Even that excuse is pretty thin at this point because historically right leaning media is also making mention of the Jeffery Epstein allegations.

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  • [+] -33 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I love comments like this. They show how similar each side is.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (11 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    This is not a maga comment, this is comment that points out that general hate against anyone seeing themselves as republicans is as stupid as republicans hating anyone seeing themselves as democrats.

    If we let us be blinded by hatred, only suffering will follow

    ✌🏻🫶🏻

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    this is comment that points out that general hate against anyone seeing themselves as republicans is as stupid as republicans hating anyone seeing themselves as democrats.

    Nope. Yours was a comment that said Both Sides Are The Same. Which was bullshit. All Republicans always vote for gigantic tax cuts for billionaire elites and all Democrats always vote to increase taxes on billionaires. So on the most critical issue of all, both sides are literally as far apart as is possible.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Mine?! What?! Read again who commented what..

    I think you are a bit confused…

    But yes, you can choose to look only at things that are different for most republicans and democrats, but you can choose as well topics where you find democrats and republicans in favour and against at on both sides.

    💁🏻 but I fear, that is too complicated for people growing up in an only two party "democracy".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    In first past the post system, you're either for or against. Clearly you've made your bed, be prepared to sleep in it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    If I would live in America, I would not fight against republicans nor democrats.

    I would fight against gerrymandering, against the pardon rule, against winner takes it all, against death penalty, against no absolute majority requirement, against hate in general, against police brutality, against unregulated capitalism, against destruction of nature, against CO2 pollution, against frekking (damn no clue how to write that, but what I mean is the way of getting gas that makes burnable gas coming out of the water giving thingy above the sink), against in-transparency of government (make it more transparent and better controllable by demo (demo is the word for all the people living there and is part of the word democracy (democracy meaning power to the people))), against healthcare only being accessible if you are rich, and against all the things I forgot on this list.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    If you lived in America, the Republicans would be putting you in a fenced off area with tents, with minimal food and water, and with no ability to contact a legal representative.

    Because people aren't choosing the DNC, this is happening to people just like you. The things you listed are happening because people don't support the DNC. Progress isn't happening because the DNC haven't had more than 50 seats in over a decade, conservative reforms are actively making everything worse over time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don’t think DNC would do that as how it is now, there is more reform needed than just voting for DNC.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    So you at least admit that we need to start with voting DNC as a bare minimum, to remove every GOP possible.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    Yes, 100%

    Never had an other opinion.

    Voting democrats is the way to go, because they at least seem to listen, and would make violence free change away from this two party system more a possibility (like a president needing to have absolute majority to win and therefore opens gate for third parties).

    But as counter argument, you could say, voting republicans brings more anger into more people and therefore motivates more people to stand up for change, reaching a critical mass you would not have if dems are in power. Of course, with high risk of violence.

    I personally am against violence, therefore, I would vote dems, if I’d be living in America and am allowed to vote.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was thinking this, like wow dude what a way to keep digging deeper. Please keep asking him the same thing on different days and just let him bury himself

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  • [–] 130 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As Jon Stewart said, the biggest crime trump thinks epstein did was poaching his people, not that they were traficked and raped.

    “I told him, I said, listen, we don’t want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa. I don’t want him taking people. And he was fine. And then, not too long after that, he did it again. And I said, out of here,” he said, describing Epstein as having “stolen” his spa workers.

    Asked point blank if one of them was Giuffre, who died aged 41 by suicide earlier this year, he replied: “I think she worked at the spa. I think so. I think that was one of the people.”

    “I don’t know. I think she worked at the spa. I think so. I think that was one of the people, yeah, he stole her,” Trump added. “And by the way, she had no complaints about us, as you know, none whatsoever.”

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hahahahahhaa woah woah woah. Did he just admit further culpability and involvement?

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Aaaand now I'm wondering if Trump's Mar-a-lago club is also a hotspot of sex trafficking where I wasn't before!

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago

    He's talking about "stealing" someone like they are property, FFS.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    So, ummm... why did Trump have underaged girls working at his spa in the first place?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it's (usually) not sex work, but I'm 100% sure Trump was staffing his spa with sexual appeal in mind.

    And if not he'd have no reason to even care that a teenager took a different job. No one gets upset about a teenager being poached because they were so good at doing whatever menial task you entrusted to them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Honestly I didn't even think about that part. When I first heard the interview on the radio this morning, I imagined they were talking about experienced massage therapists or something. Nah, they were kids working their first job, not even out of HS.

    You're 100% correct that under normal legit circumstances, not even their direct supervisor would give a shit about a 17 year old changing service industry jobs. The fact that Trump not only knew about this, but cared about it to this degree, is very fucking weird.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The absolute nicest interpretation I have for this is that Trump knew what Epstein did and was upset that he'd recruit girls at his club. But that means he knew and didn't care before that. And didn't say anything after.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is it illegal for 17 year olds to get jobs in the US?

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  • "Epstein and I were certainly not friends! He stole one of my underage victims. . . Do you have any idea how much grooming it takes to persuade a child to fuck fat sweaty old men in a golf club bathroom? Without crying too much? Do you?! I did all that work, she belonged to me, he stole her. We fell out way before he put my name in his files."

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I also kept wondering who are all the staff that kept that pedo island going? From cooks to pilots, and I guess they came from trump and that makes sense. What I wanna know now is where are all those people now? This wasnt a one man operation

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They're interviewed in a documentary from a few years ago... And quoted again in the articles posted here yesterday.. clearly some don't ask don't tell mentality folks..

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/jeffrey-epstein-island-where-virginia-giuffre-visitors-b2740242.html

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    C,mon America! Find your shame again. Where is your moral outrage? This is greater then Republican vs. Democrat. The world is watching.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    America, from an American point of view, doesn't care if the world is watching. Especially with a Republican admin.

    We have a pedophile in chief. We have failing institutions and infrastructure. Our economy is in shambles. People who WANT to work can not find work, at least not sufficient to survive off of.

    Third world shit hole indeed, welcome to America! Hopefully you don't have a tan or you're ending up in a foreign jail with no documentation.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    We have a pedophile in chief.

    Yep. It's very sad.

    https://youtu.be/Jpstc9r_esA

    https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

    COMPLAINT FOR RAPE, SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, CRIMINAL SEXUAL ACTS, SEXUAL ABUSE, FORCIBLE TOUCHING, ASSAULT, BATTERY, INTENTIONAL AND RECKLESS INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS, DURESS, FALSE IMPRISONMENT, AND DEFAMATION

    Plaintiff Jane Doe, proceeding under a pseudonym, brings this action against Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, and alleges that...

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Reportedly a lot of his supporters are becoming disillusioned by the whole sex trafficking thing. Like ,what was your first clue but also better late then never?

    There's even a theory that a lot of people are using the whole Epstein thing as a offramp

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    These aren't even red flags at this point. It's a blaring siren.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    "And by the way she had no complaints about us, as you know." This sounds entirely like there were complaints but also, SHE WAS FUCKING UNDER AGE TRUMP! Come on dude?! Like shut the fuck up. It isn't about complaints towards you it is genuinely about a guy, you knew, that you won't release files on doing shit with your business and you told him to "quit" what did you do to protect your actual employees and these young women.

    It is just like, how the fuck is Trump not under investigation is it just shady as hell. If you are a federal agent reading this I just don't know you can't be ashamed of your country.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Trump: And so then, four years later, I banned him from my resort.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I wondered who Epstein would have “poached” that would cause such a falling-out. Now I wish I didn’t know.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    That's Epstein only crime per trump.

    He's not like us!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    So, your organization failed to protect its employees from a predator?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Let's pretend for a second that this actually happened, and Trump was actually upset about it. Where's the lawsuit? Trump makes habitual use of the legal system for every grievance he has in the world.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    It makes sense that he's phrasing his guilt around a complaint like "stealing" employees. Uh huh. Liars always use some truth to hide their lies. I suspect it was a good source of girls for Epstein. I'm sure Trump wasn't aware these girls were stolen to go to the island.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I personally don’t think Epstein did kill himself… (it is written as fact in the article)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I don't firmly believe that he did or did not kill himself--though I lean towards he did not--but I take great offense to how every news organization reports suicide as fact when it's quite questionable.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    You cannot posses a person so you cannot steal a person.

    Its called kidnapping. Human trafficking.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This defense has got real "I shot the sheriff but I did not shoot the deputy" vibes.

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