Huh? They are openly tankies why would this be a hot take?
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Piefed dot world needs alexandrite or at least to get the interface buttons working much faster. I click upvote and it shows up like 5-10 seconds later. Without infinite scrolling I will never make it to page 3 either. That is all the interruption my brain needs for me to be more productive and useful and not on social media so it has to go lol. Self checkout needed w/infinite scroll drool
we're currently looking into some performance issues, we're looking into updating to the latest version this weekend, which fixes a few potential deadlocks. lately we've been getting DB deadlocks rather frequently, which results in significantly worse performance until we restart one of the services.
Get rid of transparency? What's happened now?
A lot of Tankies like ML and Hexbear users promote tearing the US government down, they also favored and promoted Donald Trump and take Russia's side in the Ukraine war.
So basically they claim to be making things better by "removing democracy and transparency."
Thank goodness piefed exists :)
There are some Growing Pains at the moment. But there were with Lemmy as well. I hope to see them better resolve soon enough. And I've been enjoying it plenty myself.
Still waiting for Boost to support it (which is planned), then I'm jumping ship.
Voyager started recently. And already does 90% of what's necessary. I really would like to see it add in the way piefed combines all comment sections from every cross posted instance of a link. That's the one big thing I'm missing at the moment. But it's also a fairly big change under the hood I'm sure
Been getting my meds in order so I have the wherewithal and organization to make the move myself. Had to move one comm early, and it seems pretty functional so far. Have to admit that I'm not thrilled about the color schemes available, but that's a small price to pay for the eventual avoidance of supporting tankie ghouls.
What? You don't think 1970 / 80 was the peak of UI design? That you can ever have enough imitation green phosphor on black? LOL yes it's pretty bare at the moment. But the project itself is new enough and its come along fast enough that I think we can forgive it for now. It's definitely promising how widely it's being picked up and deployed.
Switching over account data was really easy at least. I think Voyager has it and I know Interstellar does. I used Interstellar to migrate all my Subs Etc. I saw a piefed has a link to migrate whole communities. Though I haven't tried that yet. I'm assuming it does more than just creating similarly named communities. But I haven't looked into it.
I saw a piefed has a link to migrate whole communities.
The only reason I have yet to switch is because I can't find a "hide bot accounts" button, as I can't stand seeing bot posts/comments.
In "Block and Filters" you can block bots
All, or 1 at a time? Because I did not find an option to block them all, automatically when I checked.
I see a "Hide completely" option in "hide posts from bots"
I was about to thank you again on my piefed.ca account, but I could not find this comment chain (starting from pugjesus's comment), and after turning off bot/nsfl filters, I can't even see the post anymore on piefed.
I hope we'll get more options in the future as well - I'm working on my own alternative at the moment :)
Don't know what Piefed is
If I'm not mistaken, it's a parallel project to Lemmy that's also based on ActivityPub for the fediverse. Think of it as a different terminal by different devs for the same communities.
So it's more than just a different instance?
Yes it offers unique user and moderator features on top of pretty much all the same features as Lemmy.
The choice of language they are using for it will be a hindrance and a help. Python is much more accessible for many programmers than rust. However it is not always as performant as rust. They may encounter bottlenecks with scaling and a few other things. Which can be alleviated by using a language that is specifically designed for those things. Then those code modules can be called by the rest of the python code no problem.
But as a much younger project piefed has already made massive strides and even stepped out ahead of lemmy. Lemmy had a 4 year head start. Combined with no clear moral qualms with the developers. It's clear why many are excited for piefed.
!tankiejerk@lemmy.world would welcome this!
Uh... nobody at all has been pretending the Lemmy devs aren't tankies. The whole point of this community is dunking on tankies, but let's keep content at a level above "tankie bad haha".
Uh… nobody at all has been pretending the Lemmy devs aren’t tankies.
A large number of MLs assert that they're only being called tankies because everyone else is a shitlib who can't handle anyone left of Pelosi.
I mean yes, but even then what they're saying isn't that they're not tankies, but that we're just shitlibs who can't handle Real Leftism™. Like, MLs don't say "yeah tankies are insane, but I'm not that;" they say "there's nothing such as a tankie you shitlib," so while they do reject the label because it's derogatory they don't really contest the meat of it. If "tankie" didn't have a negative connotation they'd be wearing it proudly.
"there's no such thing as a tankie"
How the hell can you say that denying tankies even exist isn't denying being a tankie?
Because again, they object to the label simply because it sounds bad; they'll never actually contest tankie beliefs. They'll be like "yes I'm what you call a tankie, but that's because you're a shitlib". Contrast to modern fascists, which do try to distinguish themselves from literal Nazis despite no substantial difference existing.
It's not only that, they complain about everything with such fury cant they be happy about anything they have in life?
This isn't even a debate, the person who made Lemmy named themselves after a genocidal warlord lmao
They made a damn fine android app though
Tankies love imperialism.
the developer is obviously a bad person but Dessalines simply carried out something resembling a Nuremberg trial rather than a "genocide".
there is no historical evidence of a genocide happening in 1804. the people claiming a "white genocide" happened are white French who would obviously be biased and would want to defend their "human rights" image on the global stage.
this is akin to the binary propaganda that paints October 7 as a "genocide" and Israel's actual genocide of Palestinians as a humanitarian mission to eradicate terrorism.
No he didn't. They killed the guilty and the innocent making no effort to distinguish between them. The soldiers mostly escaped whereas civilians were murdered. In fact most people in Haiti had little stomach for the sort of purge of French women and children he desired to the point where it doesn't happen until he tours a particular settlement.
One can argue all day long he was revenging very legit harms but it doesn't make him less of a monster and his people ultimately agreed and murdered him.
there was no distinction between "civilians" and soldiers because the people he targeted fought in the colonial National Guard. you would've known this if you had read the sources I linked though. from WP:
In a 2005 article titled “Caribbean genocide,” historian Philippe Girard argued that during the first four months of 1804, “on Dessalines’s orders, soldiers rounded up white planters, their families, French soldiers and the urban poor known as petits blancs, and killed them. Neither women nor children were spared.” Drawing heavily on Girard’s claims, podcaster Mike Duncan, in Season 4 of “Revolutions,” offers a sensationalized account of what he calls the “genocidal massacres” of 1804. He alleges that Haitian soldiers raped all the White women and concludes that Dessalines committed a “heinous crime.”
Did Dessalines execute French soldiers and colonists? Yes. But this fact has been exaggerated and taken out of historical context.
When the French evacuated in late 1803, they did not concede defeat. Instead, a small contingent of troops relocated to the city of Santo Domingo and began threatening to reinvade and “annihilate” the Black population. Dessalines soon learned of these plans. He also learned about support among White colonists for the recent French expedition. In this context, he ordered the execution of people who had “taken an active part in the different massacres and assassinations” by the French army. But, rather than targeted executions for the defense of the country, terrified colonists claimed to have witnessed the “massacre” of all the White people.
Historical documents reveal, however, that many White people remained in Haiti after this alleged genocide. For example, a partial census from October 1804 lists more than 600 White people in the district of Gros Morne alone. That same month — after all the White people were allegedly killed — a British captain claimed that 200 White women were in imminent danger of being “massacred” in Cap Haitien.
Claiming that Dessalines targeted civilians is also misleading. Many of those he executed fought in the colonial National Guard — militia units of male planters and merchants — which supported the French military expedition. Such claims also downplay the violence of colonialism. Settlers were enslavers, and as historian Vincent Brown has shown, slavery was war. Anti-colonialism is not genocide.
this rhetoric sounds like the Israeli hasbara painting settlers as innocent civilians when most of them either served in the IDF or are currently reservists.
When you massacre non-combatants, women, and children as factually did happen its genocide. The fact that not all jews were killed doesn't negate for instance that the holocaust happened. For every genocide there are apologists. The fact that the french as a people may logically be deemed to be more deserving of reciprocal violence doesn't justify it because violence is done to individuals by individuals. They could have forcibly relocated the people or allowed them to be re-located especially the old, women, and children. They broadly committed mass murder. The fact that the french did much worse doesn't make those immoral acts moral.
Anti-colonialism is not genocide
Genocide is genocide.
When you massacre non-combatants, women, and children as factually did happen its genocide
this is word for word what the French did to Haitians. that was the only genocide that ever happened during the Haitian Revolution. implying that racism against white colonizers is possible or if you're a white supremacist claiming that resisting a Holocaust is akin to committing genocide is a genocide denier's talking point.
The Frenchs behavior was abhorrent but this doesn't absolve anyone from the requirement to be moral themselves.
Murdering women and children isn't resisting genocide it's just plain old genocide same as if we had put German civilians into their own ovens after ww2.
Were those civilians complicit. Largely I feel that the answer is yes. But we are required to be moral ourselves even when faced with immorality.
Of course racism is possible vs anyone it's simply a word for pre judgement based on race. If Animus is based on what is actually happening right now it's arguably not racism it's simply a correct judgment call. The French as a group were at war with the Haitians but you still can't morally slaughter non combatants.
I hate the attempt to remove a definition of the word racism from the dictionary and replace its definition with something closer to systemic racism or oppression.
What word then means prejudgements based on race?
Of course the oppressed can't oppress the oppressor but anyone can prejudge based on race which has been a valid definition of racism for a very long time.
show us the sources where he ordered French women and children purged
Show me the sources for where Hitler ordered the holocaust. You can. I can. But I think if you need them it might not be worth my time to bother. This genocide happened.
Oh wow I never actually knew that.
Do you want to make a thread about that?
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