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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

Yeah, Sam, we know.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I am rich so write what I said.

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  • [–] 79 points 1 year ago* (17 children)

    Voiceprinting as an identification for wealthy bank clients grew popular more than a decade ago, with customers typically asked to utter a challenge phrase into the phone to access their accounts.

    ha, I thought it was just a movie trope

    sometimes it feels like banks will use literally anything but recommended practices for multi-factor authentication

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    ha, I thought it was just a movie trope

    I wish. My bank has been trying to get me to do that shit for years when I call in.

    "YoUr VoIcE iS yOuR pAsSwOrD" - no, my fucking password is my password, and this voice print shit was an obvious security hole from day 1, which is why I always answered that I didn't consent to their bullshit.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's no way that the phone network has enough fidelity to be able to accurately transmit your voice anyway. People who sound similar to you will be able to get in.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I argued with my old bank for ages about this and they continued to insist enabling it on my account was a great idea.

    The film Sneakers showed the world why voice ID was a massive security hole and an all-around crappy idea back in 1992, and some idiots are still insisting it's a good idea in 2025 when it's only become astronomically easier to beat than Robert Redford and friends demonstrated.

    In my case, I've been doing radio, podcasting, and other voice work for a long time and as a result there are hundreds and hundreds of hours of my voice freely available out there. People can cut and paste me saying "my voice is my passport, verify me" or anything else they like together in Audacity, no AI needed, and fool any telephone-based audio security computer on the planet with it. And explaining this in-person to the branch manager of my former bank elicited nothing more than the blankest expression I'd seen since the pet goldfish I had as a kid.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Nope.

    Fuck TD. They enabled this horseshit automatically on my account. Surprise, surprise, it didnt work on my voice, even once.

    Supposedly they disabled it three times. Guess what else happened? Someone accessed my damn account, because it was their voice linked to my account.

    I'll never have a TD account again. Absolute jackasses in terms of account security, that isn't even the only issue I had with them.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    When I was complaining about the 10 pieces of paper, each needing a signature and a stamp, just to close one of my bank accounts, the clerk has informed me that some of their procedures has switched to an electronic signature instead. I was pumped! Until he finished the rest of the sentence. By the electronic signature he meant the squigly line, just on a touchscreen.

    Some people strive to achieve the pure zen. At that moment I've achieved pure cringe instead.

    It's strange though, because that same bank has an excellent API and batch processing available.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My bank uses that and personal info, and I have to be calling from a registered number.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Even ISPs do this where I am. You don't have to utter anything specifically but if they detect your voice being drastically different from what they have on file, they'll lock you out before you even talk to a real person. Not sure how I feel about it tbh

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  • [–] 133 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Says the dipshit making the tools to commit fraud easier than ever.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    Yes. He would really like you and the investors to know how good his fraud device is, but you have to promise not to use it to do crimes. Also, if you are afraid of his fraud device he would like to sell you fraud device protection.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    This moron is trying to drum up financial panic so he can hawk his stupid human verification device. The Sphere I think ? Or the Orb ? Whatever. It's a fucking camera.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah this guy wants to sell ai security dongles real bad

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    plug in AI security device

    "Initializing security sweep."

    "Security scan finished. All databases wiped clean."

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "Hey guys, watch out for this torment nexus. It could be pretty scary!"

    So are you going to stop building it then?

    "...No."

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Oh he seriously needs to shut up.

    He spends his entire time now telling everybody how a product, he is insisting on building, is going to kill us all.

    You would have thought that if you were building a doomsday bomb but didn't want to die it'd be pretty easy to just stop building said bomb. But nope everyday he continues making it more and more destructive.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I mean it's a valid concern. He's also nowhere near the first to voice it. I attended a presentation from a Microsoft exec who explained that Microsoft had already developed very powerful voice mimicking technology, well ahead of anything public at the time. It required only a few seconds of speech before it could fully replicate your voice. But their ethics board or whatever stopped them, due to the massive fraud risks. Nowadays I think they've adapted the tech to voice recognition used in Teams instead.

    Of course, MS wasn't the only one working on this and other people have since published these solutions, so the cat's out of the bag now.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    the problem is "he" isn't the only one building AI. If it wasn't openAI it would have been someone else. And soon almost anyone with small business level of resources will be able to have an AI platform at their disposal.

    I'm not saying the guy is a paragon of virtue or anything, but a voice from within the industry should be valuable to get legislators on board to do something about it. Not that I have great faith in them either.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    He was the first and he is the only one trying to make open ia for-profit ia. Even fucking Facebook can make their ia model open source. I think is move to legislator is just to put concurrent to disadvantage. The same way he cried when deepseek got out such funny enough won't do nothing since he pushed for a law that literally said that ia can t be legally restrain for 20 year

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Month later

    Oh by the way, just conveniently, we have this new product which can take care of this problem for you.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    You'd have to be real ignorant of technology to accept any form of voice or face recognition to gain access to anything - even your phone.

    Use a code or a pattern, everyone. This is to protect you from bad cops as much as it is to protect you from bad criminals.

    I'm actually really annoyed I can't do two factor on my phone (e.g. Fingerprint + password).

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I had to call into my bank recently and had to listen through what was effectively an ad to sign up for their voice authentication service. All the while I'm thinking, "How dare you implement this crap when you don't even support TOTP or security keys."

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  • Well well well… if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions…

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Does anyone actually think he's a genius? He's clearly a moron of the highest degree.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I followed a different post and replaced AI with cocaine, and it still works in this context.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Oh no, this tool that EVERY FUCKING ONE said would be very helpful for fraudsters and scammers is going to cause a crisis! WHO COULDA PREDITED IT???????????

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    He wants AI to become strictly regulated so no one can catch up to his stagnating bullshit engine.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I am the system administrator. My voice is my password passport. Verify me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Does anyone by chance have tips for someone wanting to sound like Mark Hamil Joker via AI? No particular reason...

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