Paprika, an app I've used for (I think) over 20 years has gone freemium nagwear. There is no way to get older versions (because he only distributes via the Apple app store now).

The only export options are HTML. The developer is a coward.

Anyway, I'm looking for a replacement. Something with a web interface so I can see it on an iPad would be helpful.

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[–] 11 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

If you're okay with self-hosting I've been using Mealie and have liked it so far.

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  • [–] 4 points 18 hours ago

    Good lookin' out. I don't think Paprika or Paprika3 have had updates in years on android.

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  • [–] 3 points 17 hours ago

    I upgraded on my iPhone and I haven't been nagged, but I don't use it much.

    Curious about the replies as well.

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  • [–] 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

    Mela!!! Super simple, can import from web pages, scanning, or PDF. Can export in lots of ways too. Can also add people, my family all share the recipies and can add. No ads or tracking. He also has an rrs app that's great too!

    https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/mela-recipe-manager/id1548466041

    Edit- it has a bunch if other features like calendar for meal planning and other stuff, but I don’t use them so can’t say much about them.

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  • [–] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 child)

    I was able to just click 'Restore Purchase' and it seems like the same paprika I've used for years is back without needing the subscription.

    But even the premium at $10/year seems like a fine compromise to support the dev of one of the best cooking apps available.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 hours ago

    It’s not about the money. I WANT to pay for what I use. I have several subscriptions to software.

    It’s the change to the software that opens the door to ads and manipulation without any recourse. It’s changing the terms. I no longer trust the developer. Also, the realization that Paprika’s export options are kind of a joke is something I should have noticed sooner.

    Any app that contains data that could be held hostage is a potential problem. That this kind of thing has become normalized is depressing.

    The conversation about what data needs to be hosted where is interesting. So much of that data probably doesn’t need to be anywhere but local. iTunes used to sync locally. Now I pay Apple $25 a year just so I can access music I’ve already paid for. I should do something about that.

    Thanks all.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago* (1 child)

    I paid for Recipe Keeper years ago when it was apparently $6 per platform (so $6 on iOS / iPadOS and another $6 on macOS). At the time it was great and is still perfectly cromulent, but it looks like it's now $20 which feels a little steep for what it is. Now that I'm more comfortable with self-hosting, this Mealie thing people are talking about seems like it's worth a look.

    Editing to add, it looks like you can import from a whole host of different platforms and formats, including Paprika. The only export option is a "Recipe Keeper .zip file," but I'm not sure how portable that is.

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    [–] 1 point 14 hours ago* (1 child)

    If you previously purchased Paprika 3 on any platform, you will continue to get all the previous features for free, only new users will have limits imposed (only 50 recipes before needing to subscribe). In addition, you will get the same features on all platforms.

    Previously, I had bought the iOS version as it was just a few dollars, but had not bought the Mac version as it was like $40! But now, I have the Mac version for free with version 4. This is awesome and more than reasonable.

    The information is very clear on their Support page

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 hours ago

    You sound like an ad. That's eerily similar to the response I got from the developer. It does not address my question. But good for you, I guess. You appear to get something for free. What could possibly go wrong.

    I'd prefer my software not change willie nillie without warning. At a bare minnimum I would expect a warning that things are going to change when updating. I should of had the option to decide what gets installed and what the trade offs are.

    This is no different than Hue changing their terms of service on everyone without notice. It fundamentally changes the relationship with the developer, and not for the better.

    "The information is very clear on their Support page" Yes, It NOW has information that could of been helpful to know before it updated. Your point?

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago (1 child)

    I switched from Paprika a year or so ago just because I wanted to be able to add recipes from my desktop and couldn't be assed to pay the $30 for a desktop client when I'd already bought it for mobile devices. I found Umami and haven't looked back. I don't recall what the lifetime subscription costs, but I've been able to share it with family members who were also getting frustrated with Paprika.

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