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[–] 14 points 2 days ago (1 child)

This dude has said some extremely problematic things and expressed extremely problematic positions but credit where it's due, standing up to Israeli Genocide is the only morally correct choice.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Yet Mélenchon is also disturbingly pro-Russia in terms of how he would handle aid to Ukraine.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    @Bad@jlai.lu destroy this fool ⤴️

    (only if you have the time and energy of course, you're not my personal henchman)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    Hahah if only I had time for every one of them, but by now I've come to the conclusion it's easier to spread propaganda than it is to counter it. Brandolini's law helping the far right yet again, as usual.

    Apparently you can host Putin's leftist opposition for decades, dump one of them the day he sides with Russia in the Ukraine war, and you'll still be labeled pro Russia & anti Uxraine. What is even the point of arguing.

    I wish people could grasp that if LFI or Mélenchon were pro Russia in any way or form, most of us.ground level activists would leave them imnediately without looking back. Radical leftists are mostly all pro-peace and anti imperialists as our core values, two things that are not compatible with Russia. If only tankies supported him, LFI wouldn't be the biggest organic movement in the french left since the 1930s.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

    As I mentioned in my other comment, Mélanchon is moderating what he says as the election draws closer, but by saying that there should be a vote in the Donbas to determine which country it belongs to, he is inherently legitimizing Russia's illegal claim to it.

    Calling for withdrawing from NATO and involvement in 'American wars' inherently implies that the war in Ukraine is one of those wars, something that couldn't be further from the truth after the U.S. has abandoned Ukraine since the start of Trump's presidency.

    I might agree with most of Mélanchon's platform, but unconditional support for Ukraine is a requirement that must not be weakened.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    He is not? He doesn't want things to escalate, but everything we are doing today, he supports continuing to do

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  • [–] 24 points 2 days ago

    Only recently has he softened his tone to avoid criticism on the issue, but he still offers legitimacy to the Russian position by claiming that sovereignty over Donbas is disputed and should be resolved with a vote.

    Mélanchon wants France to leave NATO and be 'non-aligned', but being non-aligned while one European country is being invaded by another without justification does not lead to a just and sustainable long-term peace.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    The historically protest-savvy nation steps into the ring. 🤘🏼

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  • [+] -12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    At this rate, Le Pen's plans are the more relevant ones.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Le Pen is hated by everyone. She receives tremendous support by the media owned by her friends but that won't get her votes. Even supporters from her own party prefer the younger candidate she is in conflict with. She will lose, by far. Mélenchon worries more about other right candidates

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  • [–] -5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    So, does he mean he's going to send warships into Israel's territorial waters?

    What's his plan when they get sunk?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    To reach palestine, you will have to cross European waters (where the flotilla starts like france)

    THEN international water (the place no one have jurisdiction over yet Israel assieged unarmed ships carrying humanitarian aid)

    THEN reach Palestinian water to deliver aids. See that was always the plan

    Wow, you can do so much without WITHOUT EVEN FUCKING CROSSING ON ISRAEL TERRITORY NOT THAT IT MATTER ANYWAY.

    Sorry, i know you are confused and smarter than that. I do not like Melanchon either. Yeah he is too soft with russia and china, yeah no he will not fix everything. People of power do not fix things, they are the problem... YET for French, europeans and worlds is a step in the right direction and needed breathing room on minorities and majority of peoples.

    He is not the solution, no one is the solution for everyone in every time. He certainly is not perfect. He must be criticized but boy oh boy, the opposition is turbo-fascist-mass-deportation, friends of war mongering rich tyrants, Peoples convicted of embezzlement of funds, etc, etc, etc.

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  • [–] 0 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

    "Not that it matter"?

    What if they sink a ship?

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  • [–] 1 point 19 hours ago* (1 child)

    "Not that it matter" in the sense that israel do not respect international law (i mean obviously genocide, equality between human, etc) In this specific case, they DID NOT DEFEND THEIR TERRITORY. It was not even Palestinian water they consider (wrongly) as their territory. It was INTERNATIONAL water.

    So Israel army boarded multiple European civilians ships on neutral territory.

    • They did not defend themselves as it was not threatening
    • They did not have the right to do so as it was neutral territory
    • They kidnapped and tortured citizens in blatant violation of every rule.
    • The fucking genocide

    War have been declared for so much less. I do not want war at all. But wtf ????

    I am seriously thinking, how one could see such an act and think. "it is normal" or "they are justified" If it is your thinking, could you enlighten me? Is it hate against yourself and others ? Is it desensitization? Is it the feeling of powerlessness? Is it that you need to protect yourself from the media onslaught of shit ? I am pretty sure i am not crazy, so what happened to you ?

    As Disturbed put it out :

    "Tell me now, who taught you how to hate? 'cause it isn't in your blood Not a part of what you're made So let this be understood Somebody taught you how to hate When you live this way, you become Dead to everyone"

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  • [–] -1 points 18 hours ago

    Well I'm not even talking about justified or not.

    It's just that if you sail your ship to Gaza the exact same thing will happen as what would happen if you'd sail to any other nation that's on edge: you'll get a warning, then a warning shot, and then they'll try to sink you.

    If you really plan to order your navy to do that maybe it's better to have thought a tad further ahead than "It'S jUsTiFieD!!!11"

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    Amazing, if true.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I love to see it. I hope he gets all the votes

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