Anyone have any recommendations for email, drive, vpn, and password manager?

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[–] 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well Fuck that guy. I have a free Protonmail account. I already contacted their support and quoted back Mr. Yen's AI standpoint and my horror at the disrespect for his employees he showed, as the reasons why I'll be closing my account today.

"Moving fast" and accepting "AI"-generated code without careful audits by humans is not compatible with security. Period. What an asshat. I will wait with full-on Schadenfreude the headlines in a few months: 'ProtonMail and apps hacked, thousands of accounts exposed!'. Wait and see.


EDIT: If you have a login to their forum, make sure to voice your opinion in support of forcing Andy Yen to step down immediately. Mark this issue 'Critical' and add your comments! https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/945460-general-ideas/suggestions/51867423-andy-yen-steps-aside

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  • [–] 29 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I’ve said this in a post from the previous 404 article but it’s becoming such a pain in the ass to not support assholes or fascists. Guess I’m moving again. Obscura looks interesting. Maybe vaultwarden for passwords? Mail is an entirely other problem

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Been satisfied with mailbox.org as my email provider for over a year now, switched to it from Proton.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    Same here for mailbox. I left tuta mostly due to their shitty spam filtering, weird billing, and the hard requirement of only being able to manage emails through their app(s).

    The inability to add my own pgp always irked me as well. Now I got that with mailbox, and I can use whatever mail app of my choice.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    I just started my move to mailbox.org. I was going to use tuta but I don’t want their closed app ecosystem. Then I looked at runbox but their encryption is whole disk encryption not account level encryption.

    ProtonVPN: Still looking at obscura since it doesn’t log anything.

    MFA: I found ente and it looks interesting

    ProtonPass: either vaultwarden or Passbolt

    ProtonDrive: Peergos

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  • [–] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

    Email: Tuta
    Drive: NextCloud
    VPN: Mullvad
    Password manager: KeePass

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  • [–] 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Tuta is currently looking into using AI in development

    The current Tuta apps are built more than 99% without AI, but we are currently testing whether it makes sense to use AI tools to help developers speed up repetitive processes and increase efficiency overall. The goal of Tuta is to bring privacy to everyone and for that the Tuta apps must become much more feature-rich and competitive with Big Tech equivalents (eg Gmail)

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    goddamn it… just as I finally move my family…

    self host or bust I guess

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    [–] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Wow. I guess that's it then. Everything enshittifies eventually. I'm cancelling Proton.

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    [–] 8 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I recently downgraded from proton unlimited to mail plus. I think I’ll keep my email there for now, but I’m going to move to Obscura for VPN. They’ve got a new security model which looks really intriguing and is different than other providers. No idea if they’re any good, but on its face looks better than proton.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    For email, I cannot recommend Port87 highly enough. Mostly because I wrote it, but also because it’s legitimately awesome. I used to absolutely hate email. Now I’m literally the “email guy” among my friend group.

    I have a hard stance against the use of AI at all in Port87. No AI features, no AI training, and no AI in development.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    Ugh. Again? Really?

    Welp, I'm thinking:

    Vaultwarden for passwords and TOTP?

    Aegis for TOTP if not vaultwarden

    Recommendations for email? I use FairEmail if I need to access my old emails.

    VPN? Ideally one that I can use on Graphene as well as OpenVPN for router. I've heard AirVPN maybe?

    Storage? I just recently setup a backup on my homelab to export to Proton Drive via proton-CLI to have an offsite backup.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    Email: posteo.com, Storage: peergos.net, VPN: windscribe, Passwords: KeePassXC

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    I just saw a post on Mastodon (will add a link if I can find it) about the Windscribe CEO ranting at customers who are complaining about not being able to reach human support now that there's an AI support bot.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    If you have a login to their forum, make sure to voice your opinion in support of forcing Andy Yen to step down immediately. Mark the issue 'Critical' and add your comments! https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/945460-general-ideas/suggestions/51867423-andy-yen-steps-aside

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    What on Earth does "build" mean? It's a website that offers email. It's done, what's left to do?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago*

    This is why I switched to tuta and self hosting. Unfortunately I don't have access to my router so I host everything on the tor network.

    Tuta for email, nextcloud (self-hosted) for drive, I'm currently using orbot for VPN, on my laptop I use a tor proxy for http connections. My password manager is keepass and its located on my nextcloud server

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