European Union member states have blocked a proposal by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen to grant Canada a special status as an "associate member" of the bloc.

German Chancellor Friedrich Merz and several other EU leaders pushed to remove the term from a draft declaration ahead of a two-day EU-Canada summit beginning Thursday in Montreal, according to diplomats cited by the dpa and AFP news agencies.

Instead, the revised document calls for a plan to establish "closer ties" between

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[–] 37 points 1 week ago

It's just about the wording, doesn't change the plan of very close ties.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 week ago* (9 children)

    the eu doesn't have anything called "associate membership" so if this passed they would have had to actually define what that means. makes sense to change the wording to something less formal but equally signifying.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    Pretty much everyone agrees they should simply be part of EEA (economic area) like Norway, not an associate. If you're going to do this, do this right instead of making up some new terminology for specific country that no one really knows what that even means.

    Right now it just looks like posturing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    do this right instead of making up some new terminology for specific country that no one really knows what that even means

    Have you seen any European international agreements? There isn't a single god damn treaty that doesn't have some vague country-specific exceptions.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    less formal but equally signifying.

    ...that's an oxymoron? The formality is what gave it significance.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I feel like the significance is in the terms of the deal and not the wording. It sounds like it's to avoid never ending linguistics bureaucracy.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    The main negative of the EU has always been their ability to disagree about the most mundane and inconsequential things making every decision like wading through treacle.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I'm so sick of merz and his stupid face.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    From what I've read and seen I think Carney just wants closer ties as well, not some sort of official status. EU shouldn't worry however, Canada will most likely share access to the arctic, which I believe is what this is really about.

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    Really, it's not that big a deal, it was kind of a silly semantics game to call it "Associate Membership" anyway. It was more about headlines provoking the Coppertone Fascist. That a trade deal is cut is the important part.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Closer ties - it's still something ig? just not so much not too fast as many would wish. But no big drama ig?

    It was bold move from the start, such needs taken lots of care. Still good they going nice direction of growing, even if slower.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 week ago (18 children)

    “Genocide buddies” would be more honest. Free Palestine and Land Back.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago* (17 children)

    Not everything has to do with America Palestine

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (14 children)

    If you think the U(K)SA & Germany are the only complicit countries, I have a bridge for sale, etc.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

    Dude, this has nothing to do with middle east. What did even France or Italy do for you to call them genocide-buddies and how would Canada be mixed up in this? Why are you insulting so many countries and people?

    Close reddit lemmy and touch grass

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (4 children)

    France and Canada both supply weapons to Israel. While Italy backed off new arms shipments they are still providing supplies AKA material support for genocide.

    So inconvenient to bring up genocide, I know.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    But why are you bringing up Palestine war instead of Ukraine war, which is far deadlier and actually affects countries in this article? That one affects Europe much more directly, including the talks about Ukraine also becoming an associate member, just like Canada?

    In other words - why the hell are you talking about Palestine under this article and then even claiming "so inconvenient to bring up genocide" while not even inconvenient, just really, really random

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    I didn't bring this up, OP of this thread did. You commented and I commented. It is called a conversation. No one is forcing you to get "off topic" if that is really what you believe.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    You’ve been corrected on this already. Both entities are responsible in part for what is opening in Palestine. How can you possibly not be aware of that?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Both entities are responsible in part for what is opening in Palestine

    The question is about how is that relevant to multiple countries veto'ing the associate aggreement

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    It is not the question. It’s your question.

    Countries vetoing this agreement are complicit in genocide currently and historically. Countries like that collaborating is not a good thing.

    Ask anyone appealing to these governments to stop facilitating genocide. They use their interrelationships to point to each other and shirk responsibility. It’s a very big problem.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Naah, I think it's because those countries historically were involved in slave trade. I think slave trade is the real reason diplomacy in Europe is't going smooth. And no, you cannot ask me why as that is not the question, you cannot deny that slaves didn't exist so it all fits

    This is how you sound like. I'm not even continuing this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (3 children)

    There is a genocide happening today. You seem to be happy to talk about anything but that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    There are more slaves in modern times than historically.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    I thought you were finished.

    I just read your profile. You’re a genocide apologist. That explains how dedicated you are to being obtuse!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I think you should learn to read then since you failed (shit, I even have a profile description going into that, how did you miss it?). I meant not continuing the topic, but at this point I'm just ridiculing you.

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