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[–] 29 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Not sure why they’re so upset about their ugly new UI that everybody is going to hate

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I don't love apple or anything but I got tired of the flat 'revolution' that was forced on everybody for no good reasson. This looks like something interesting, harking back to when UIs were interesting like older windows tried. Or older macs that were glass like, at least on their maximise, minimise and close buttons.

    A lot of UIs are boring nowadays, I dunno I want something more interesting, I only have one apple product that was given to me, so it isn't like I'm a fan or anything, I'd welcome any interesting change no matter the OS, company or development team. I remember even when linux had those really interesting effects for X like cubes changing between virtual desktops etc, those were fun.

    So no, it isn't because "it's apple" at least not for me, and as someone else pointed out, most apple users will actually hate it. I just love change and innovation no matter where it comes from.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I happen to agree on most or your points.

    By the way, you can still get the fancy desktop effects by installing Compiz. Probably only supports X but I haven't really looked into it. Must've been 2009 or 10 when I used it lol

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Round edges and a Windows Vista era soft blur?

    I can't think of anything more generically Apple...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It feels pretty silly to protect UI design to that extent. It's as if I started designing a website for a client, someone passing by took a screenshot and showed someone my design. Then I sue that person for... not keeping design secrets? I dont understand how apple can prove any damages besides maybe being owed the ad money on that video. And even that is a stretch, and not worth the lawyers' time in my opinion.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Apple's whole business model is creating hype around their products. And if this hype is preemptively damaged by leaking secrets that would otherwise feed the hype, they clearly are negatively affected by this. I don't say any of this is good, that's just their business model. And capitalism of course...

    However, in this case here the youtuber imo didn't really reveal the product itself, but only a mockup version. Shouldn't that be even beneficial to Apple? I'd think creating all this buzz around the "leak" is just one way to try to get more hype going for them.

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    [–] 48 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Willfully breaking an NDA with one of the most litigious companies in the world for what is essentially fake internet points is a bold strategy Cotton. Doesn't look like it is going to work out for him.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    From the article, if you read it, you will see it was not willful at all:

    The full complaint, posted by MacRumors to Scribd, outlines Apple’s version of events. Ramacciotti was friends with an Apple employee named Ethan Lipnik, who had an iPhone running an in-development version of the next-generation version of iOS. Allegedly at Prosser’s direction, Ramacciotti gained access to this phone while Lipnik was away from home and used FaceTime to call Prosser and show him the new software design.

    “Defendants’ misconduct was brazen and egregious,” says Apple’s filing. “After Mr. Prosser learned that Mr. Ramacciotti needed money, and that his friend Ethan Lipnik worked at Apple on unreleased software designs, Defendants jointly planned to access Apple’s confidential and trade secret information through Mr. Lipnik’s Apple-owned development iPhone.”

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Just to clarify something, because I think the majority of people here only know what iOS 26 looks like from the thumbnail. Below is an actual screenshot of the iOS 26 beta running on my phone.

    Just like Android, things are customisable and the icons in the thumbnail are the most egregious version of the new visuals. I find it hard to believe anyone will actually use that styling tbh.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Even the non glass icons look terrible, they include some automatic blur being applied.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I agree! But, I also think that might be some weirdness with how the system treats lighting on the normal icons compared to ones updated with their new materials in mind.

    Almost all of the 3rd party app icons I have are various levels of blurry but the system icons seem fine.

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  • [–] 89 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Intent. One was an accident, the other is potentially criminal if I'm not wrong. I could be.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Breaking an NDA (allegedly) is civil, not criminal

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Based on the article, the youtuber and an accomplice who knew an Apple employee accessed the employee’s phone while it was unattended, so technically it wasn’t intentional and more negligence. On the other hand, Apple also claims the employee failed to report previous breaches, so maybe this was the final straw.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What’s old is new again. “Glass” desktops and interfaces have made at least 3 rounds so far.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ahhhh yes, I remember glass Opera.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I miss that and I mean more than just the Frutiger Aero aesthetics. I miss what I felt back then when opening the browser, not knowing what awaited me today but in a good way. Despite everything, tech companies promised us a digital future that wasn‘t entirely dreadful. In hindsight it was all just escapism of course and another cycle of that trend would just feel painfully cynical today. It can never be replicated. Big tech will forever be flat design at heart.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Kinda reminds me of Windows Aero, but with Grey as your main colour.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wait what would you call the main color of aero?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The lack of color isn’t the default, it’s an option (an evolution of one that already have). By default everything is still colorful.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I've set my Android to the Glass icon pack. It kinda looks okay if the background is very blurry and featureless. Try setting a busy vacation pick as backdrop and you won't find any of your apps again unless you set the icons to a size normally reserved for the visual impaired.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm on the fence, it's nicer than material design (I've always hated 'material design' though) but it's so colourless.

    Bring back skeuomorphism!

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    At least material design is readable.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    what specific skeuomorphic elements do you want back? it is still there in lots of places and I don't think liquid design removed any more of it. i also don't think the amount of color in design necessarily correlates with skeuomorphism.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    I’m on the beta. And I started hating it, then went to disliking it to simply not preferring it.

    Being in beta, they are still making tweaks. I think, somewhat unexpectedly, the final build will be kinda nice.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Gross. Why in the world would anyone want translucent icons?

    Yes I'd like to strip away my ability to quickly sort mentally by color and I'd love it if there was a background image partially visible intermixed with the thing I'm looking for. Windows phone was peak UI. I don't think transparency even needs to be a thing in an OS.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The icons in the article aren't even the default behavior. Mine all still have color. At least on the home screen and app drawer. The control center icons are translucent but those barely had any style before. And crucially, wifi, bluetooth etc buttons still have color to indicate status.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The difference between this and the iPhone 4 leak might just be company policy. I'm sure Apple's rules for handling prototypes got stricter after the first leak, so this guy probably broke more rules than the first, even if they did basically the same thing.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Interesting to read that they actually fired the engineer this time. The last time this was reported (more recent than the phone proto left at the bar), Apple didn’t fire the responsible engineer. I guess that person was too important to let go.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    This time it was a willful and intentional leak (at least if you believe the article's version of the events), whereas the guy who left the prototype at the bar was a complete accident. It's not surprising to me that Apple would fire someone who intentionally leaked something. As for the guy who left the phone at the bar, I guess it depends on how careless and negligent you think that was.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Ten years later, they finally replicated my iPhone 5 jaibreak theme and widgets! Well, partially.

    What was that Cydia theming app called... it was titled in leetspeak, I think?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This comment brings me way back haha. I had to look it up because I didn't remember but it was Winterboard or Dreamboard that I used on my 3rd gen iPod touch.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Oh no, does that mean glassy look will be back the next few years? Bad legibility all over again? 😱

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Maybe. I suspect it will be much better than last time.

    Processing power is much better now than in 2006. Back then it was about having some blurry transparency and lots of light beams and lens flares and shit, because it was easy to layer that over stuff. This is going to be more about refraction at the edges and clarity in the centers, with frosted looks as background when needed.

    I am hopeful, it looked mostly good in the WWDC video, with only a few examples of poor legibility that hopefully will be ironed out.

    I’m personally ready to move on from the flat look as long as it remains cleaner than Frutiger Aero. I miss having depth in my UI.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Plot twist: the Liquid Glass redesign was just a decoy they hoped would get leaked as a distraction to maintain buzz during the long delays in their secret Transparent Aluminum redesign.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Did Apple forget their company operates on hype?

    Edit: found the Apple fanboys, I guess

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was worried it was gonna be Marquis Brownlee being sued.

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    Comedic gold. Jon Prosser has always been a hack job who makes stuff up, gets butthurt when proven wrong, and then disappears until he conjures up more fake news. He's also a terrible presenter and his videos are cringe. Ironic that the one time he's right about something he also gets busted for breaking the law

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