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[–] 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

"Once consciousness is lost, consent cannot be given or verified."

Well, yeah no shit. Consent before engagement is consent understanding the potential consequences. Not giving consent prior to losing consciousness is typically called rape. It's late and I'm tired so correct me if I'm wrong.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Normally, sure. But these days, legalese can turn it into implied consent depending on court, judge, jury, accused and accuser. It's circumstantial and there will be arguers for both cases. So it won't be a clear win in every case.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    (just in case, I didn't read much past the statement in my first comment) I interpreted that sentence as an in-the-moment situation, leaving judgement and biases out. If someone dies from breath play with unwritten/unrecorded consent there's (typically) one other person present and no recordings, so it's their word against the defense.

    There's plenty of times where someone has been choked during sexual interaction, didn't give consent, and never speaks of it again. Some cases (unfortunately) don't stop there.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    You can't consent to being killed, of course

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Sucking toes is safer than choking.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    You really need to trust a person and have an agreement of when to stop and how hard and a safe way to ask to stop for that.

    Reminds me of how in the epstein files a still unnamed swell pal of his at his New Mexico Ranch is said to have strangled a girl to death in sex, and they buried her our there.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Die cumming or die in the water/oil/climate/some-other-bullshit wars later...

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    Strangulation and breathe play causes permanent brain death. There is no safe way to engage in it.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (6 children)

    My wife likes when I grab her neck. I am an introverted duck kind of guy, okay? Not your ”Im gonna choke you while I fuck you” kind of guy.

    While learning how to do this appropriately, I had squeezed too hard once and killed the mood. 🤷‍♂️

    It’s more of a grab, firm hand… not really choke.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Not trying to judge you sir. Just stating the fact that constricting breathe in any way leads to brain death.

    The euphoria that is felt from doing this is due to oxygen deprivation. Doing this regularly with a partner will lead to permanent brain death. This does not mean they die of course, but a part of the brain does and the damage is cumulative.

    I personally don't find giving my partner brain damage to be very sexy. Have fun and be safe!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    In my wife’s case, it’s mental and not physical. She doesn’t like being choked. She likes the feeling of my hand around her neck. It’s like a domination kind of thing, or something. In similar vein, she likes being called a good girl.

    There is no oxygen deprivation going on.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    yeah, a distinction has to be made between real choking (which can't really be done safely, even a little bit) and mimicking choking with minimal pressure placed somewhere it won't actually affect blood/air flow. I am willing to do the latter but would never ever consider the former.

    Knowing some anatomy helps, as it's a lot safer to put pressure on muscles like the upper trapezius that are fully behind the trachea or major arteries/veins. Combine that with light pressure in the front on the collarbone and you have a relatively safe approximation of choking.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    the brain does and the damage is cumulative.

    How can you tell if that cumulative damage is present? What are the symptoms? I didn't know that :o .

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    The following obvious only if consensual:

    • Grabbing the neck is fine
    • Pressing some on the neck is fine
    • Restricting movement is fine

    Choking can cause permanent damage to the neck and or throat and can cause severe neurological damage and or death. You really want to risk that? Even with a partner that had it done "many times and nothing bad happened!", yeah. It only needs to go wrong once, you only need to slip up once, you only need one tiny thing going wrong and both you and your partner will have your life taken or ruined.

    Just don't, this literally isn't worth it. Get high (weed) and have sex, that'll do just fine

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    That image made me wonder how the woman is choking him from behind.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    Good thumbnail

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  • [–] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    @wowwoweowza That's very sick. 😞

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  • [+] -18 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

    If strangling women gets you off you belong in prison

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  • [–] 28 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    What if I enjoy a little chokey choke from my wife, and she enjoys it too, as well as vice versa? Should we both be in jail?

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  • [+] -18 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    tee hee! an ickle wickle chokey wokey!

    i'd throw away the key

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    🤷‍♂️ we don't do it hard, you know. Just barely more than making skin contact so you can feel a little bit of pressure. It's not like full on Homer-on-Bart "why you little—" squeezing the neck... 🙄 Plus it's mutual.

    But whatever. 😊

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  • [+] -23 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    christ do they allow child marriages wherever you're from

    barely more than making skin contact

    it's not about you then is it

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago*

    do they allow child marriages wherever you're from

    That is criminal here. But what is the relevancy of that in this context, lol?

    it's not about you then is it

    What? It's about both of us. Like I said, we both enjoy it. And it was a while ago either way. Only when it gets really hot and passionate. 😉

    You sound like you're offended that we have something nice going on. I hope this isn't jealousy. 🫂

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