This headline is deliberately misleading in sanewashing Trump's false statements; neither Ukraine nor Russia signed up to an energy target truce.
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short and sweet facts:
- Trump declared the truce. Neither Ukraine nor Russia agreed to the truce.
- Ukraine willingly backed off after Trump decided he has a magic wand that allows him to make truces between other countries without their consent.
- Russia continued to attack during Trump's "truce".
- Ukraine kicked Russia's ass after 3 days of playing nice.
- magically after Russian data centers were bombed... half of the "MAGA" social media accounts magically stopped posting.
magically after Russian data centers were bombed… half of the “MAGA” social media accounts magically stopped posting.
I wonder how many tankie/extremely online so-called "leftist" types magically stopped posting, too. Lemmy has a lot of them, but I wonder how many Bluesky has.
We ALL 'feel' that the Ukrainians have been screwed by Trump.
It's against their constitution. Russia is propagating that idea and you're spreading it
Stop being manipulative. You were suggesting they hold elections.
And why are you belittling me. Like the things you've said haven't been pushed by Russian and far right wing Americans for 6 years.
Manipulative bs is all you're doing.
You know what would stop it? Russia could go back to Russia and quit their attempts at seizing sovereign Ukrainian territory. .ml says you're unlikely to agree that the aggressor could stop aggressing and fuckoff back to their country at which point withheld elections could happen. Ps. Most countries withhold elections during national emergencies even Russia.
Blablabla you're a rightwing turd, go back under w/e bridge you crawled out of, redhat.
And you can't answer a simple question.
Can the invaders simply leave and end the conflict?
Neat, doesn't change fuckin anything but neat.
Nation are just groups of people dumb dumb.
They absolutely are Ukrainian because no international body accepts the sham referendum. They could leave and go to Russia, they can't however cede territory they have no sovereign right to. Do you own a car? I've led a referendum to cede your property in totality to me. So I now have sovereign right over your property? I imagine that answer is no.
They were murdered by Russia, it's on video genius.
That wasn't azov or was Wagner and they claim responsibility. You're not even trying.
So again, could the invader not simply leave and end the conflict? ~~~~
They aren't serfs, they were free to leave. The land however is owned but the people of Ukraine, not just those people who arguably decided to leave Ukraine.
The video that the icc has in multiple genius. They're mostly public at this point.
Neat, there's no evidence of that and it doesn't change the fact that land is not theirs to cede.
And the mondochians think you're twat. Good, were even huh?
Azov didn't find them, civilians did.
You're aware the official position of Russia at the moment is it never happened all those people were alive and were actors, correct? Why are you taking positions even Russia thinks are batshit crazy.
Could the invader not simply leave and end the conflict?
That doesn't change the fact the first reports were from civilians outside of the intercepted messages from Russians about the massacre.
Literally bucha video, you're on the fucking internet use it. You won't answer a simple yes or no question but you're crying because I won't baby bird information to you? Logical.
Uh huh. So again could the invaders not simply leave and end the conflict?
Uh huh so again irrelevant.
Uh huh, I don't watch sports but sure try the ad hominem shit, you clearly can't win an actual argument, maybe you'll be a better bully but evidence seems to point otherwise now doesn't it?
Again. Couldn't the invader simply leave and end the conflict? I'll keep asking it and you still can't answer it and keep your job. Prove me wrong boo boo
This is the first video taken in space.
Checkmate.
Russia admits it invaded, why the fuck are you taking up crazier positions than Russia itself? Who else would be an invader dipshit, fuckin Santa Claus? The tooth fairy, there's a line between fucking moron and paid shill and I believe you just crossed it.
Could Germany have left Poland and ended the conflict? Also there's the whole soviets wiring with the Nazis before the Nazis betrayed them.
You're being an idiot and when ever has the invader been the good guy comrade, draw the line where imperialist land grabbing stops being bad and starts being good.
I'll wait.
No international body accepts the donbas or crimea votes and they're very suspicious just generally if you actually look at the numbers and how they came about. Wagner, russias blackrock use Nazi imagery and murder their own on video with sledgehammers. To add to that there is no evidence of systemic Nazism anymore than any other European nation including Russia. Mother that doesn't give Russia the right to invade, at all ever and in fact they signed a treaty specifically to not get involved in Ukraine at all.
They certainly do, they have a right to exist without being murdered in an invasion into their homeland either.
That's a fun non answer. Russia the objective invader and aggressor could simply leave Ukraine could they not?
So if a country arbitrarily believes a section of another country would like to succeed it is not an imperialist move to invade and occupy said country. Correct?
You avoided the question yet again.
Could the invading country simply leave and end the conflict? Seems like a yes but I'd love to see what shape you contort yourself into trying to explain how every death since the invasion is not directly the result of Russian involvement.
There wasn't an election prior to the first invasion, there was a sham election afterwards literally zero international bodies accept and surprise surprise they won't allow a monitored revote. Weird right?
That's not the question, you seem to be mad at answering questions or more likely you're avoiding the ones that make you look like you have the critoval thinking of a partial breezeblock.
Yeah, irrelevant but yeah.
The difference between the maidan and jan 6th is the majority of the country supported the maidan while almost none of America support jan6th. Also Mexico didn't invade and claim we're ethnically Mexican did they?
And again, could the occupying invading country not simply leave Ukraine and end the conflict? We both know the answer is yes but the fact you can't admit it speaks volumes.
Incorrect they barred several observers and closed several stations reporters were watching. And ocse is correct, it's not legitimate anymore then me going to Russia and holding succession referendums.
That would normally be the way it works yes if Russia went is sticking incursions into Ukraine. How many days after maidan was out before Russia invaded crimea again?
Maidan ended 2/22/14 2/27/14 invasion
5 days? Hard to hold a legitimate election in 5 days huh?
And again, could the invader not simply leave and end the conflict, just say yes already and stop being cowardly.
I just said that dummy, osce weren't the only ones who wanted to observe. I think we find the issue though, reading comprehension doesn't to seem to be your strong suit.
Amusing, the first invasion into crimea was 5 days after the agreed end of the maidan. Russia admits the first incursion was in February of 2014, why can't you?
Agreed, they can have a vote after Russia leaves just as they've said they will multiple times. Heres a fun question, how many countries during ww2 suspended elections?
And again my shilly friend. Can the invader not simply leave and end the conflict? Come on, be brave baby you don't need this job anyway.
Oh honey…
Woah that's crazy there are hyper nationalists in the military of a country getting invaded, even when the head of state is Jewish!
That is, of course, assuming for the sake of the argument that your "photographic proof" is real because what's actually present in that picture is a blur of pixels that don't match the colors in your "enhanced image"
Dumbass lmao
New account huh? Doesn’t seem like it’s gonna last very long.
Always nice when they tell on themselves. Sure, a mod can block them on one board, but I can block them from my sight everywhere.
So you did your own Bart meme by posting the thing you always post. Great self own.
Wow. You really showed me, huh?
Fuck Ukraine.
Why? What's your beef, specifically, with Ukraine? Be specific.
Edit: what year do you think it is? The USSR hasn't existed for like 40 years
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