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[–] 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In the European Union, side guards had been required on all trucks since 1989.

Enough said. Adopt it. Why do we do this to ourselves?

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  • [–] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    As with everything in America

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    And also in Canada. This surfaces once in a while, usually when a cyclist is killed, and it always ends up with "it would be ideal but nobody wants to pay for this".

    Apparently we can't burden the truck owners with the cost of installing them, and no level of government wants to help.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    Interesting and informative video, thanks for sharing! I'd never see these before at all, they seem like a no brainer

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    That's a good piece of tech, should be mandatory for trucks registered to work in the city.

    Another safety tip for cyclists, cars and motorbikes: don't try to pass a right turning truck even if it looks like the driver is providing a gap to their right. They need that because the back wheels will take a shorter way around the curb, you don't want to be in the way there, which is an easy way for incidents like this to happen. Stay well back when approaching, or pass on the left.

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  • This is the standard in countries with road safety laws. The first and only truck from an EU country I could find from a 1 minute long image search that lacked those guards was this one:

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    In the European Union, side guards had been required on all trucks since 1989.

    I don't remember to ever seen this. The European trucks seem to be smaller, and maybe the space is used more efficiently... ?

    EDIT: i saw the images posted in the comments... yeah i've seen them, but they do not look like a fence, just something occupying the space, i always assumed it was something that was necessary for the normal operation of the truck.

    EDIT 2: The next time i left home, i saw one... I guess i never paid attention. So forget my comment

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    [–] 108 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Good video but a terrible opening

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  • [–] 55 points 3 weeks ago

    Excuse me, excuse me, but this is a clearly unscripted random interaction with a fellow probably human.

    …yeah, it soured me on the rest as well, although it sounds like the idea itself is good. heh

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  • [–] 47 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Why the fuck are they giving exemptions to vehicles that are constantly on city roads?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    It sounds like it's something they can only require them on vehicles whose companies have contracts with the city. If true, I'd assume that the exempted trucks aren't hauling away city waste - maybe construction debris or something like that.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Two types of people in the world: those who don't think about the need for this and those who spent time on liveleak.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    The dude's priority list at the end...

    1. The poor truck driver (who was non-compliant)
    2. The company's insurance
    3. The person being killed by the truck
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  • Well I mean I'm guessing he's part of a union and needs to sell his soul a little bit to the, "one for all," spirit. I'm hoping when he's at home away from the union, he's more for the safety of all individuals than just the company he works for.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children)

    Expected a joke.

    Discovered a tragedy.

    Also a neat device.

    NY, get your heads out of your asses and just do it. Get it done! 100% of trucks! Big fines for it not being there! Go!

    Hell, this should just be all urban areas in the world.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    It is in EU, and in UK, and in Japan.

    It's only third world nations, such as USA, that have such shoddy safety standards as this

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Going from arguably the world's strongest superpower, to at least pejoratively a third world is so depressing.

    All it takes is Conservatism!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Pejorative and Actually too

    Third World under the strictest definition: Not in NATO or the Warsaw Pact (no longer exists, was a pact between USSR, China and some other random countries)

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Oh snap.

    I immediately think of a lot of old white guys scoffing at that and trying to rationalize why that doesn't actually matter, casually throwing away a single weapon that they previously used against others for their own benefit.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Save us Mamdani!

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I’ve never seen those guards in Finland, which is part of the E.U.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    I've never seen guards like this either, but more importantly I've never seen the large gaps in the side that guides victims to fall beneath multiple wheels.

    I suspect all the trucks I've seen in Europe left the factory compliant with the regulation, with no need to install side guards.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    I opened Google Street View and "drove" along Mannerheimintie. Here are images of all trucks I found along the "drive":

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    ...and then I figured I'd try some rednecky place, and the most redneck place I could pick from my hat was Kauhava (sorry, everyone in Kauhava). I figure that if in some place they drive trucks with illegal modifications, then that's there.

    So, I went for truck hunt there as well, which turned out to be much more difficult than I thought! Anyway, here:

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    I am not able to find a truck in Finland that does not have those protecting devices installed. And I don't think I have ever seen one.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Toothless laws to let businesses save some money at the cost of people’s live

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    "Technology" aka portable fence

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    I mean, yeah. A lot of innovations in safety is really just stupidly simple things that we learned the hard way (someone being hurt).

    The stupid part however isn't how simple these things are, but rather how hard it is to get through even the most basic changes.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Before I opened this and saw the video, I thought it was going to be an indicator light.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    I don't know how the fuck this isn't a federal law?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    What product or service was it trying to sell to its audience?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    That question just might be answered by watching the posted content! But I don't blame you for not, this was a rough watch.

    I got about 15 seconds in before the visceral disgust was too much to bear. I'd rather the answer be a mystery than listen to more fucking "TIL: I am about to preach to you" posters

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago*

    Edit: I guess other countries have them

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Trucks will always be needed. Trains can't go everywhere.

    Also, the passenger-train utopia we both want would require lighter-duty high-speed rail, which freight trains wouldn't be able to operate on

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Not boxcars, no. But up to the 50s we had electric rail in my area that handled panel-van kind of packages from station to station, via shipping cars hooked to the same train as passengers.

    Then pneumatic tires and gasoline-powered buses got popular and they killed electric rail. We still haven't the reach, speed, or versatility as we had then, since buses need to fight traffic against cars.

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    [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Mandate the guards for all trucks and make it tax deductible, insurance bonus, something like that.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    When I was a kid, we learned "if your feet are on black stuff, you could be in danger. Pay attention."

    How is this going to work better?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    In both of the examples, the cyclists appeared to be aware of the truck and paying attention. The trucks did not pay attention to them.

    These would not used instead of bicycle awareness, but would work in tandem with it.

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