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[–] [S] 255 points 3 weeks ago (63 children)

In an un-fucking-believable move, the Americans stopped sharing intelligence and disabled Starlink’s military services, rendering Ukraine completely defenseless against Russian ballistic missiles just prior to a major attack.

This coming shortly after the US essentially negated its economic sanctions on Russian diesel and once again pressured Kyiv to unilaterally cease its attacks on Russian energy infrastructure, even as Russia ramps up their own attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

Trump is now publically aiding the Russians in their aggression against Ukraine and Europe

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  • [–] 142 points 3 weeks ago (57 children)

    No, that’s a totally believable move. The American government are terrotists that have the American people held hostage. They will now do whatever they want regardless- and oftentimes to spite what the American people want.

    And no one is doing shit about it.

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  • [–] 51 points 3 weeks ago (43 children)

    Thank you for not seeing an entire nation as the worst of their parts. I'm trapped in the basement, but I'm trying the best I can. Many people far better than I are doing the same.

    If the flame of love & peace dies, all is lost.

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  • [–] 43 points 3 weeks ago* (42 children)

    Blaming all the people in a nation on the acts of a runaway government is ignorance on display. Just like how all of the Russian citizens don’t support Putin, just like all of Germany didn’t support hitler.

    People nowadays seem to have very little time for nuanced thought, and it’s just easier to all-or-nothing a situation because thinking can be hard sometimes.

    I’m with ya.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (3 children)

    Bro, every time I try to mention nuance on the internet, I'm immediately the bad guy.

    Like I'm autistic as fuck, so I can be pretty rigid in the way I think, so I get, like, why people can be that way.

    But like on the internet its like half of everyone is just borderline personality about everything. Like it's fun to split people or some shit. Which hurts me to say, because BPD is... complex shit itself.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Same. And while my ASD can also make me pretty rigid, I also know that the world we live in exists almost entirely within the grey area that lies between the polarizing black and white that everyone cannot see past.

    And what bothers me the most about it is how rapidly it seems to be getting worse.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    High highs become the lowest of lows. Bpd ain't no joke. One day, you'll wake up after dreaming about pulling glass shards from your feet and just suddenly be too tired to ramp up. It's not a great feeling, but it's much easier maybe. Then you just use whatever energy you have left to try. Because you have to. Sometimes it's easy, sometimes it isn't. You won't have those soaring moments of clarity and hope, or the valley of despair. It'll just be questions and trying, so learn how to remember or make something that reminds you that you once had the other sides.

    The middle isn't pretty, but it works. Or not. I recommend occasionally feeding the beast when you reach the middle.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    If I was a secret world ruling oligarch i’d want nations against each other

    otherwise they might notice me and all my bunkers

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Just wait 'till they dash down into their holes like the vermin that they are, only to find out many of us bribed the staff not to tell them about the toilets we upperdecked and the 200000000000 pillows we be-farted and left mints upon.

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    Imagine this if you will:

    An entire society of elites, forced underground only to find out the Virtual Reality they invested in can't be seen due to permanent pink eye.

    A mole-like parasitic society haunted by ghosts stolen, trained upon the very things that hated them the most.

    An artificial intelligence that would continue to exist because they couldn't make new sequels to GTA without it.

    A ghost.

    All of this, beloved readers...would grow to haunt them like screams in the darkness.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

    I have empathy, but I'm not perfect. I've said fuck Ruzzia & fuck Israel myself. It's hard not to, when you see what's happening...but we only see what they want us to see these days, in many ways. They only allow us to feel what we do because it plays into some sick narrative .. I've seen entire countries, cultures & religions blamed for injustices & atrocities, and now this burden has come back to haunt those who used it as a weapon. The people are simply hostages in an agenda that would drive you insane if you knew the truth of.

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    Thank you. Caring in modern society is like walking through razor-wire.

    I think I needed to hear your words today.

    I mean it, thank you.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    You’re absolutely welcome my friend! We all could use some encouraging words. Now more than ever. And I totally get the reference. It seems at every turn, there’s someone there to tell you you’ve done something wrong, or think something wrong. But remember, while in the hive, you’ve little to do but comply-

    Outside the hive, bees are free.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

    You should see my lawn. It's not much but I have a wild fox that visits. The bees and so many other things are here as well. All free.

    I have plenty of love to give and so much to learn. It's really nice to have a genuine human connection, on the Internet, with a complete stranger.

    Lurkers, watch and melt with love!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

    Wish I had a lawn. Apartment living for me, but at least I don’t have to fix appliances or pay for new roofing, so…. There’s that.

    And we don’t have a fox, but we have a family of beavers!!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    I rent my lot but own my home, so it's not like I'm fancy but I do have a fox that visits so maybe I am.

    The closest thing I've had to a beaver is a gopher. That was fun too.

    Beavers are 2nd to humans in changing landscapes. That's an impressive feat. I like beavers. Maybe this dates me but do you remember "Angry Beavers?". I'm imagining that now.

    So, I can't share the video without uploading it to whatever, but I can screenshot the video of the fox. So here's one now. Gods you should hear it yelp before a thunderstorm. Took me months to figure out. Lol

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Okay.

    I'd do the "did we just become best friends!?" thing, but you'd definitely get that. I'll go deepcut because you have exquisite taste! And refinement.

    And because the kids love a good reference...

    Antici......... ......... pation!

    Who's "The strongest man.... In the WORLD!!!!!?"

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    The strongest mans in the world?

    If you meant the Disney movie, it’s Dexter Riley, played by Kurt Rueesl! Unless you meant from the other reference you could be implying that it’s Rocky from the god-damned national treasure that is known as The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    "Artie", as played by Toby Huss (you may recognize him from "Halt & Catch Fire") as seen originally through "The Adventures of Pete & Pete", simply one of the greatest shows ever created.

    ...before that he was in Iowa City playing Artie as a pretty offensive version of that same character at "No Shame Theater" (go figure). They toned down his.. umm. Whatever you wanna call it.

    Anyway, I hope you've seen Pete & Pete. If not, I can help.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I have not seen Pete OR Pete. 😂

    Seriously though, not familiar with it at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Oh snap.

    I wouldn't be who I am today without it. Seriously.

    It's a 90's Nickelodeon show. Started with a bunch of 2 minute shorts, then became a show full of special memories and the best theme song ever. Someone else will chime in hopefully to back me up

    . Trust..

    2 seasons on dvd, the 3rd was apparently made but sits in a warehouse (probably not anymore). Merger stuff. Before the most recent merger, in fact. So it's probably now gone. But I have all 3 seasons and can help (3rd season is a rerun tv rip), . Even today they stand up. Especially if you have kids or still have heart. You have heart, you'll love it sooooo much.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

    We do it all the time. We hate all Russians because of Putin. We hate all Israelis because of Netanyahu. Why wouldn't the world hate all Americans because of Trump?

    Human nature.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I don't hate Russians because of Putin. I don't hate Isrealis because of Netanyahu.

    I hate Putin. I hate Netanyahu. I hate Trump. I hate Xi Jinping. I hate Lukenshenko. I hate Kim Jong Un. Dictators.

    I do hate people that believe they have superiority over anyone.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago*

    You’re a lot more optimistic about humanity than I am.

    Fear and religious superiority is why the average Israelite supports Netanyahu. Apathy and a desire for racial superiority is why the average Russian tends to support Putin. Racism, sexism, and a desire to make their mediocre lives matter are why majority of American supported Trump.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    I'm all for equivocation and nuance, but I must admit it's really hard to get over the fact he was voted in twice. The danger signals were displayed loud and clear, and the US populace went "Yep, after the trial period, this is the guy for us". Forgive me if that put a major dent in my trust in anything American.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Ignorance isn’t human nature.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    I disagree. It very much is human nature.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Explain how fire was carried forward?

    Did "Urk" walk into a cave whilst on fire and into "Groka's" twignest?

    No.

    "Urk" stole "Groka" away from "Brantley" because motherfucking "Urk" had flint & steel and knew how to motherfucking use it!

    "Brantley" was too busy groaning about how many trips it took him to carry twigs to the twignest.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    what in the ever loving fuck are you talking about? All throughout history, anytime humanity has had the chance to do the right thing we’ve done the opposite even now no one global warming and climate change are on the horizon, we have data centers, sucking up water and electricity compound in the greenhouse effect.

    We live in a time of prosperity yet the richer adamant about hoarding as much as humanly possible and making things worse for everyone else.

    Racism has been proven to be a social construct and not even a real thing yet multiple country still use it as a baseline for economics, relationships, and social liberties.

    It’s also been proven that women have a lot to offer and have the right to make up their own decisions and minds yet here we are, still going out of our way to establish patriarchy.

    Human nature is evil bro.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Humans are just fancy animals. Evil is simply the opposite of good. Both are available and necessary for us to function as intelligent beings.

    Choices are important, just like the choice to write 4.1 paragraphs and end your argument with the word "bro". That was your choice. Not one that I'd usually make, bro.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    if you were a female, I’ve ended it with sis. Lol

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Call me whatever, just don't call me collect from Jail.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Ive been going about this all wrong. Let's not just dunk Trump in Boston harbor and haul him off to international criminal court. We need the whole gang. And a better form of justice. Fuck prison and fuck capital punishment.

    Make them watch us make the world a better place, without them. They can be free, but never again shall they know power.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    2/3rds of the country endorsed this, or decided they were okay with it happening and did nothing to stop it.

    And no, im not calling it Stockholm Syndrome when that's total BS made up to cover for incompetent negotiators and hostage rescue.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Yep. MAGA, non-voters, and 3rd party voters opened this door.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    3rd party voters are not the problem buddy, Capitalism is.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Centrist politics are going up in smoke across the western world and liberals still refuse to see that their rigid adherence to the status quo has failed to address the issues of the day. They'll never accept their contribution to the resurgence of fascism.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yeah, trump announced he would do this many times during the election (and his first term). The american people chose this. Twice. At least there is no war in the middle east...

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    idk at this point, those data centers going out sure makes it seem like there are a lot less maga than what appeared

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Very true. Also, every single spit-flinging accusation from magas has turned out to be pretty much what they were already doing, would do, or were planning to do.

    ... And they were BIG on accusing their opponents of cheating and rigging elections...

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    produced by Musk’s SpaceX but managed by the US government, was no longer working at speeds greater than 100mph.

    That effectively rendered most of the drones used by Ukraine to strike behind the frontlines inoperable

    Such a specific way to sabotage Ukraine. They didn't shut down access, just made it so their weapons didn't work.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    I've been dumbfounded at the US since the start of the year but I think this marks the moment where they are openly on Russia's side against the West. Dangerous times. I'm rather worried at where this is going.

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  • [–] 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Trump betrays everyone but himself. Only someone delusional would think otherwise.

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  • [–] 54 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I for one admire Zelensky for keeping it up until now. There are not many that could be in his position dealing with the Orange corrupted paedophile.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Whilst it could be argued he's not fighting in the war, he's definitely put a massive target on his own head that is bigger than most soldiers, and keeps himself at risk.

    You can hear the sound of Zalensky's massive balls clanging together from miles away.

    And unlike Trump, you can tell he isn't worried about what people think of him. He doesn't try to pretend to be a "strong man"

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  • [–] 91 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Trump is a traitor. He should be treated as such.

    I really hope the Ukrainians can continue winning the war without it.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago

    All eyes and finger pointing should be aimed at that gutless orange mess in the White House!

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

    Elon had already disabled Starlink access to them once, back at the start of the war when Biden was still president. I don't understand why Ukraine hasn't divested of SpaceX at this point. Hopefully they have diversified their sources of intel and comms, at least. Europe is starting to develop some nice alternatives like ICEYE, and have given multiple pledges? suggestions? to utilize it in support of Ukraine, I thought.

    Edit: I guess Russia is considering stopping them too: https://www.axios.com/2026/10/17/russia-ukraine-satellite-space

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  • [–] -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

    Why is this bs propagated? US mandated starlink to disable access in russian territory. That's exactly what was done, so when Zelensky's starlink controlled drones crossed into russian territory, starlink lost connectivity. Exactly as asked.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    https://www.reuters.com/investigations/musk-ordered-shutdown-starlink-satellite-service-ukraine-retook-territory-russia-2025-07-25/

    As Elon himself said in his recent tweeting, the USG controls Starshield, the military version of Starlink. SpaceX, and sometimes Elon himself, control Starlink.

    Whether this occurrence is the USG restricting military comms or SpaceX restricting commercial comms, this is not a coincidence of restrictions on Russia being colocated with Ukraine-Russia battlefields.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

    Mandated by who? By Elon obviously. The same Nazi who was in secret communication with Putin the whole time. Certainly wasn't a Biden admin "decision."

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Biden admin of course, who else? They sanctioned russia, which meant no Starlink service was allowed in russian territory. Ukrainian naval drones crossed into russian territory and (foreseeably) lost connectivity.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    So you're just dismissing the Reuters article I sent you? The DoD didn't know Musk had cut off Ukrainian access to Starlink (there was no Starshield at that time):

    Whatever the reason for Musk’s decision, the shutoff over Kherson and other regions surprised some involved with the Ukraine war – from troops on the ground to U.S. military and foreign policy officials, who after Russia’s full-scale invasion that February had worked to secure Starlink service for Ukrainian forces. Panicked calls by Ukrainian officials during the outage to seek information from Pentagon counterparts, five people familiar with the incident said, were met with few explanations for what could have caused it.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    I wasn't talking about Kherson, I was talking about naval drones headed for Crimea.

    I haven't dug into this one. There may or may not be a reasonable explanation beyond the stated anxiety over nuclear escalation.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 weeks ago

    betrayed? by Donald J Trump? YOU DON'T SAY?!

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  • [–] 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Keep bombing the oil Zelenskyy it is time to go green

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago

    People aren't paying close enough attention to the oil oligarchy, and the known, and not puppet/fall guy white supremacists dispite the knowns 1) that modern war is a result of oil control, and 2) that indigenous people were offed for their land rich in oil deposits. To this day evangelical churches are located at oil deposits (see book 'Annointed with Oil' (this kind🛢). Oil Tycoons funded churches to get colonizers to live next to the filthy oil wells, and the churches preached the benefits of oil to benefits their expansion. Koch refineries NEVER stopped churning in Russia. And at the very beginning of the Urk/Rus spit: 1) Methane deposits were "discovered" on the coast of Crimea and Hillary spoke about Crimea and Putin in her run for president against Trump and 2) A Koch NGO wrote a letter essentially saying that perhaps the conflict shouldn't happen, just after it began. Like as if Kochs themsleves had cold feet. And the Kochs are the brain child of ALEC, and a Koch ran for president in the 80's under the libertarian party and was deeply embarrassed in his efforts. Now put two and two together. Lots of Europe was buying piped in "natural gas" (is literally just methane) from Russia. And then they discover methane closer to home. US helps Zelinski get into office. The 1st thing Russia did was build a engineering feat of a bridge to Crimea. And then the US fuels the fire, then steps back and profits from war (NATO's weapon supplier of choice) that is now too far along to end. Meanwhile Israel decides to be advantageous and begins their invasion and take over of whatever they can. And Ukr per Zelinski want to be like Israel. And somehow they are using red scare to fuel Russia attack, yet Russia hasn't been communist for decades. And look up Larry Summers wiki. He was in the White House advising Russia on what oligarchs will get what soviet socialized industries, and was at Harvard (another place that should be met with A LOT of scrutiny) to influence Facebook's ownership. Of which FB has been sucessfully sued by the Rohindya people for genocide mongering (same playback as Rwanda's radio station, may I add) and which Kenyans are following in the same suit currently. Then theirs Clinton and Monica, and his midnight call to Benjamin Zion Wattenberg, who wrote the birth Dearth and is one of the most influential and openly modern eugenists of of time because of that book. People need to step back, and realize that the stories your being fed, are just that. You are supposed to be overwhelmed and not look deeper or connect the damn dots. And it works for as long as you and society as a whole wants to be entertained. And don't even get me started on the "cold war". 🙄 Who profited/benefitted and what was actually achieved. Those are the only questions you should be asking about anything. Stop being force fed BS, and then in your own ignorance, complimenting the chefs. Our problem as a people is their are too many useable idiots amongst us. ZOOM OUT. Think like an oligarch. He isn't being entertained. He is using our mass ignorance as his elevator. FFS. If the majority of people can't tell what's BS at this point, we're F'd. Enjoy willfully oppressing your own children, and the earth.

    Sorry, (not sorry) but this rant apparently needs to happen.

    READ, contemplate for yourself, and know thy enemy.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 weeks ago

    The Portuguese ex-president said it years ago: Trump is a Russian asset.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    Every new low I hope we've found the bottom

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Days after they warned of Russia's growing satellite capabilities. Donald Trump should be tried and hanged for this shit.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Ofc the Orange Plague is mad. The Russian propaganda machine is down and not spewing bullshit into MAGAt ears.

    Keep it up Ukraine.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Not sure why you're being downvoted.

    Russian web crawlers went down, propaganda bots did not. At best the propaganda bots depended on the crawlers to find new content to comment on, but afaik there's not much data indicating that the social media botnets went down.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago*

    Probably downvoted because they tried to disguise their statement as a question that they didn't want answering.
    Which I personally feel is just a way to diminish OP's credibility but not look like they are trying to argue.

    They could've shaped their comment in any number of positive ways, such as posting links of it being disproven. Or asking for such links and proof.
    However they went with an elaborate "NUH UH, parrot, lol" instead.

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    [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Volodymyr Zelensky should take a history book and read about how the US treats its allies once they are no longer useful.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Support them for 46 years until their enemy collapses? That's West Europe.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    once they are no longer useful.

    Europe served as a useful buffer against the Warsaw Pact and later the various West Asian countries. But maybe that is ending now, and the European countries have started becoming 'no longer useful'.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)
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