Just got a weird DM with a link from Rimu Discussion & Question Threadiverse Moderation (lazysoci.al)
submitted 1 month ago by to c/fediverse@piefed.social
 

It's come out of nowhere. Totally unsolicited. Has his account been compromised?

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[–] 25 points 1 month ago

this seems like a really weird way to piss off a bunch of people. I think this practice might need to be rethought.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago

    I understand the reasoning but the implementation is weird, I would never click on a link from some random instance without having interacted with it, I would have to assume it is phishing. On top of it if my client doesn't show those messages I would not even know that I got one.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    From what I understand, there's been an uptick in accts which use scripts to share posts, yet do have a user presence to create comments. If you go back to the last PF public update, these accts are now being recognised as "reposter" accts to separate them from bot and fully human.

    4000+ posts in 2yrs is a lot of posts, so it's maybe not surprising that your acct got flagged and this message went out to you.

    Some users are naturally not going to want to see bot accts, and some reposter accts, so the new feature allows them to filter such out if they want.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    For the record, 4k posts because I care and want the fediverse to be a success for people like me with interests like me. I post things relevant to me, things I find interesting, fascinating, things I'd like to learn more about or things I think need more attention. In my opinion, that's what everyone should do. It's how I'm able to avoid All and enjoy my Subscriptions timeline full of content I'm actually interested in.

    I think this is a massive overreach on the part of piefed and actually discourages posting.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    That sounds very much like my philosophy here.

    Still, that's something like five posts a day if you're really doing it all by hand. May I ask if you're posting stuff verbatim or whether you add on to whatever you've found?

    I think this is a massive overreach on the part of piefed and actually discourages posting.

    You've presumably read the explanations and the fact that Rimu is less than pleased with how this kind of thing works, and is open to better ideas. Still-- it addresses a real, known issue, and let's not forget that hand-built, volunteer-based social media software like this is inevitably going to have growing pains like this. You know?

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    This is actually my second account, my first instance died. RIP lemmy.tf!

    I don't editorialise titles at all. I scroll through CapyReader, see something I think is worth sharing, open it in Firefox for Android, press share, select Summit, use the autofill for the title and then hope that it gains traction.

    Narrator voice: In most cases it doesn't.

    You've presumably read the explanations and the fact that Rimu is less than pleased with how this kind of thing works, and is open to better ideas. Still-- it addresses a real, known issue, and let's not forget that hand-built, volunteer-based social media software like this is inevitably going to have growing pains like this. You know?

    πŸ₯Ί I genuinely have zero reason to interact with piefed.social. He/his software has come to harass me and now I'm expected to go read the explanation? With all due respect, it's a piefed problem, not a me problem. I've been posting from before piefed even existed. The explanation is akin to devout religious people who take issue with homosexuality making random people in their city prove they're not homosexual because they breathe the same air as them. As I said, it's a massive and weird overreach.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Narrator voice: In most cases it doesn’t.

    Well, I know how that works, and good of you to make the effort.

    He/his software has come to harass me and now I’m expected to go read the explanation?

    No, the explanation's right here in this thread. It's been phrased several ways from several people. The link is only if you wanted to see the official announcement.

    And I must say you seem to be taking this extraordinarily hard. To me, if that's the worst thing that happened to you that day, then you've still had a lovely day. I mean it's one bloody message that wasn't phrased well with a real point behind it, as a small step to improving the overall experience here. You really haven't understood that yet?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    i mean five posts per day doesn't sound like a lot to me, you can totally fire that off in an evening

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    True. But to average that per day for two whole years is still some dedication.

    Personally, making a post takes me a lot longer. Usually I spend time on a combo of research, upgrading imagery, adding contextual info, and writing a mini-article for my posts. I'm happy to average over one a day, but I understand different people have different methods.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    A "massive overreach" to simply ask if you're a bot because you're a prolific poster? Seems a little ridiculous to me. At best it could be perceived as suspicious or annoying.

    There are tons of obviously-bot accounts reposting shit like crazy, and while I appreciate having content on the threadiverse, having thoughtless trash content is much much worse than having limited content.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    I had this too. It was also sent after I had questioned one of his posts, felt suspicious

    It’s a huge breach of Fediverse etiquette

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    It was also sent after I had questioned one of his posts, felt suspicious

    That doesn't make sense to me based on your acct stats. Would you mind explaining the circumstances?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Look at my comments, it’s like the third one down. That’s all the context I have.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I've gone back 20 days in my posting history, haven't made a single post to a piefed community outside of this post here.

    Since when do I have to authenticate my ID or my human status to instances I don't use?

    It's actually weird and rude. I don't know if I should be offended or flattered.

    For the record, I have an instance of Miniflux running and share the majority of my posts from there manually. Outside of that, I've shared a few Ed Sheeran things from my YouTube feed and I occasionally share my friends YouTube animations.

    I don't even have a bookmarklet set up to share posts as I exclusively use mobile devices. Not sure why I should even have to defend myself.

    Rude and weird.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Please don't worry yourself over this. You've done nothing wrong.

    I'd encourage anyone else that receives these messages to ignore them and block the sender.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    The instance runner didn't do anything wrong either, other than to word the message less than ideally. But there's a major point going on with the new "reposter" category, and users have made it clear they'd prefer such accts to be marked as such. That's the root of things.

    I’d encourage anyone else that receives these messages to ignore them and block the sender.

    To me that would be like throwing the baby out with the bath water. It's a one-time message that'll likely never be seen again, not any kind of spam or whatever. And if we blocked people as easily as that, then we might as well block everyone on the Fediverse who very occasionally annoyed us.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It's a feature Piefed has. The idea is that if you were a bot, the operator would most probably not pay attention to DMs and not click the link. So after 24h the originating instance can mark your account as bot. AFAIK it does not federate between remote (not yours) instances

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 month ago

    As someone that doesn't post on any piefed instance, why is it bothering me? I'm not on the fediverse to be tracked or authenticate myself. If I wanted that bullshit, I'd join Reddit, X or one of Meta's apps. There needs to be safeguards around features not harassing people. Especially people that don't even use their instance.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    why can't your reply back you are not? the link clicking I think is something most anyone here would not do when instructed by a dm.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    You can. It says that in the OP. The link goes to Piefed.social domain, so shouldn't be suspicious. Replying back requires manual review from someone who is a volunteer moderator, administrator and developer. The link automates the process so he can focus on other things.

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