As Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents embark on countless deportation raids in an effort to meet the White House’s daily arrest quota of 3,000, many officers are becoming completely demoralized, several agents told Nick Miroff with The Atlantic.

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[–] 63 points 1 year ago

These gestapo mother fuckers weren’t “forced” to do anything. They applied, interviewed and accepted their positions. And when this administration asked them to do things they weren’t comfortable with, they just fucking did it anyway. No sympathy for these fucks. I hope they can’t sleep at night for the rest of their lives because that’ll still be a fraction of the emotional trauma they’ve inflicted on countless nonviolent immigrants.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago

    Maybe don't work for Team Evil then.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago

    funnily enough the actual Nazi Gestapo also suffered the same problem. It was hard to find people who actually wanted to do this and they had to abstract the logistics of exterminations to stop the SS/SD from topping themselves all the time

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    No one's forcing them to do anything. They could refuse, change departments, get another job, etc.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    "Some ICE staff had already jumped ship over Trump’s mass deportation policy, including 33-year-old Adam Boyd, a form(er) sic. ICE attorney who left the agency in June. Boyd told Miroff he ultimately made a “moral decision” in deciding to leave the agency."

    I'm torn. On the one hand, "Good!". OTOH this means it leaves the ones WITHOUT morals are still there and working.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    His claim he left due to his morals is laughable; in order to become a cop or work in that system, one cannot have morals to begin with. There are no moral cops.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The terrifying thing about this kind of problem is that they do have morals, but they've been warped. They're surrounded by systems that tell them that what they do is good, necessary, or at least morally justified. That warp their judgement and morals, protecting and encouraging their part in heinous acts. All the while their moral judgements see themselves as the good guys, and that's the worst part.

    If somebody sees a conflict between their personal morals, and the actions of themselves the system around them, good on them for refusing to participate anymore.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "Forced"? Last I checked they weren't under contract like soldiers so why can't they just walk away from the job?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    So don't.

    If you signed up to stop crime, do that and only that. And I don't mean "the crime of being here."

    If you're conducting a legal action with a judicial warrant to detain an actual dangerous criminal, focus everything on getting that one guy.

    Anyone else who happens to be in the neighborhood... isn't.

    If you're sent to raid a business/farm that's illegally exploiting undocumented immigrants, arrest the exploiter, not the workers.

    That goes double if you got a tip about the business, because it's highly likely the owners themselves sent it in order to quash discontent or unionization.

    Have no power to make those decisions? Run slowly, grab loosely, pull your punches and aim any chemicals or less-lethal projectiles wide of any humans. And keep top of mind that they are HUMANS, despite what your reptilian overlords may tell you.

    Don't quit, make them fire you for sabotaging the cruelty.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Aw, those poor little Nazis. Here, I've got a cozy little fire pit for you to warm your bones.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Imagine the morale of the Gardner, damn.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They should all quit then and get jobs doing something that isn't evil.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Cry harder nazis

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This kinda reminds me of Romans 13, a passage in the bible used to excuse nazi soldiers at one point

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    For whatever reason, I opened this article thinking it was from the Onion, or similar joke site.

    I didn't realize it wasn't until I got to the end.

    We say things like "There's even a timeline in which Hitler's art career takes off"...

    Every other timeline uses ours for that example.

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    [–] 94 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    "forced" Remember, no one forces them to commit massive human rights violations, every single ICE "agent" has to justify in front of the International Court Of Justice in The Hague. We are preparing the seats, ICE agents, I hope you are ready for what is coming. Pleading "just following orders" didn't work during the Nürnberg Trials and won't help you now.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Europe doesn’t rely as much on illegal immigrants for the labor market. The structure is different.

    it does rely a fuckload on internal legal migration, which each fascist wants to demonise seperately.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Idk about Europe, but in France big chunks of the food service industry and of the agricultural industry rely on humans who were not born in the place that could provide them said papers.

    I heard Spain is also massively exploiting them for their farming industry which supplies a lot of European countries in fruits and vegetables.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    [–] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Oh no Nazi sad? Too bad. Every one of you are criminals and will be trialed as such when the American Nazis hang.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    So that's where they draw the line?

    Gardeners? Well okay.

    Seems to me that they had no issue with arresting & deporting the elderly, children, separating parents and children, documented legal immigrants and so on.

    Sucks to be forced to deport your own gardener, I guess..

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Don't forget literally snatching children as "bait". Kid's a birthright citizen, but if you arrest THEM and they call Mom about "some people said they were from ICE and they took me away from school", you can arrest the parents when they show up and deport THEM instead (and often put the kid in foster care instead of sending them with their parents to whatever country of origin.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Nah. This is ICE were talking about.

    They signed up because they're racist shitbag fascists.

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    I don't see the contradiction. A lot of 'normal people' are racist shitbag fascists. How do you think we ended up here in the first place?

    Also, did you even fucking read this?

    I spoke to a gregarious New York police officer who was fed up with patrolling Times Square and all “the savages” there.

    Yeah, totally normal, everyday folk. No racism in their motives at all!

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago

    Oh no are the nazis sad? Boo fucking hoo.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    They are not welcome in civil society, so hopefully that morale doesn't improve after the failure of trumps presidency and the convictions for blatant disregard of people's rights, including Americans.

    If they don't show id and a warrant, they aren't protected personally from prosecution.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ah, the poor widdle babies! But who exactly is "forcing" them? "I was just following orders" is going to go down about as well as it did during the Nuremberg trials, when this madness has finally played out.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So the USA will get a slap on the wrist, and be given enough money to rebuild an industry without ever paying reparations to anyone?

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Quit now or fuck off.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    QUIT THEN, FFS

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago

    If it bothers them so much, they can just quit. Otherwise STFU.

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    Kys or quit those are your options

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    "I'm a foot soldier for a sadistic evil regime. Poor me!"

    Maybe try not being a foot soldier for a sadistic evil regime?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Don't worry, they'll weed out the people who have any shred of humanity or empathy.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Just a reminder. That a lot of the people in these departments are already mentally ill. It’s how vets get jobs. Tons of undiagnosed PTSD in these people. Just keep up the push back. They will buckle.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's how vets get jobs... I don't know what to tell ya, buddy. Seems like your world view is all fucked up and I have no idea where to start... Do... Do you think mental illness helps you get and keep a job? Is that what you're saying?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’ve worked with these people. They are violent monsters that watch too much faux news. I give no one respect if you are a violent monster who doesn’t get treatment. I have no problem with people with mental illnesses. I have my own. But I don’t support people who talk about killing other people because they disagree with their beliefs. Which I have heard talked about by these same people.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    No sympathy for Nazis.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    TF is this article supposed to be saying? Feel bad for ICE? So sad they willingly wrecked families or deported old people and other legal residents? Doesn’t seem to be slowing them down any.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    "Bullshit street rips to bump the COMPSTAT numbers."

    Why yes, I am in the middle of a Wire rewatch. Why do you ask?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    There's always a choice.

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  • When I hear ICE has complaints I think of the annoying baby mario sound from yoshis Island.

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    Just go to miami, plenty of Cubans for Trump to kick out illegally, and they'll love it!

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