Healthcare is a social right, not a privilege to be rationed by corporate insurers and canceled by government fiat. The fight against the assault on social programs cannot be separated from the fight against the capitalist profit system.

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[–] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Surely, kicking 760,000 people off of health insurance will improve the economy and won't accelerate the health insurance death spiral:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_spiral_(insurance)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    and then theres the hordes of people that had to drop thier plans because the shutdown ended with the enhanced subsidies too last year, which damaged the DNC further, because they agreed to end it early.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Thats the goal.

    "Look! Government insurance is broken! We must change to a 100% private system!!"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Uh, it's already a private system. Even with Medicare and Medicaid. They're just government assistance programs that send people to private providers and private pharmacies.

    We do have a proper government-run healthcare system, though: The Veterans Administration. They have their own doctors and hospitals and vastly greater efficiency than the best private hospitals/insurance.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    Or as Kevin Kruse puts it:

    This is like accusing someone of robbing a bank because they deposited money and never withdrew it

    -KK

    Their vile lies wouldn't work if their constituency weren't so irredeemably stupid.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Insurance works by the health majority paying in enough to cover the sick who need the care (not including the money going to greedy fucks making record profits off the premiums).

    So if they kick people off who have “never filed a claim” they’re kicking the ones off who are helping support the whole thing.

    Bet the plan is to claim the government can’t subsidize the cost anymore because there’s too many sick people, and shut it down.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    funny enough it also increase the cost for the ones still on the insurance, because theres less people paying into it now. the deductibles nad OOP are designed to discourage people from using the insurance chronically in pratice.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Corporations and the people who run them don't care about your well being at all. They care about you giving them all your resources. Find some friends and defend yourselves.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I only hope that an unusually high number of Trump voters are affected by this.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Very pro life of them

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago*

    Conservatives are PURE evil. Never forget how evil they are when they have any amount of power at all.

    The only thing that brings a conservative any joy is the suffering of the vulnerable.

    Disown conservatives. Permanently.

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    [–] 100 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Oz told reporters that 35 percent of people in the system “never used the program,” having never seen a doctor or filled a prescription. Reasoning that people who haven’t used their health insurance will never need it is the logic of someone who has never worried about a medical emergency that could spell bankruptcy overnight.

    I'm sure that you'll be waiving the coverage mandates attached to the taxes for all those you dumped too

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  • [–] 68 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    My brain hurts. He literally described how insurance works. You don't get car insurance cause you plan to use it.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    About two years ago all the ACA plans basically became shit and were worthless for routine stuff.

    However, I did get several years out of Obamacare and had access to the best insurance of my life on their mid tier plans.

    It was a nice couple of years, but employers got used to it and offer even worse plans.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    I’m sure that you’ll be waiving the coverage mandates attached to the taxes for all those you dumped too

    Are you talking about the ACA mandate that Americans have to carry health insurance, and there would be a monetary penalty if an individual didn't (aka "the Individual Mandate")? That mandate was set to a $0 penalty in 7 years ago 2019. Or are you talking about something else?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Hadn't recalled it being changed, but given his hate of the ACA and anything related to Obama I'm sure he'll find some way to punish people for either staying on it or being thrown off.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    but given his hate of the ACA and anything related to Obama I’m sure he’ll find some way to punish people for either staying on it or being thrown off.

    You're not wrong. In 2021, trump and GOP tried to say since the Individual Mandate was made $0 that the entire ACA needed to be thrown out. The Supreme Court of that day told trump to pound sand, so the ACA survived another GOP challenge.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Reasoning that people who haven’t used their health insurance will never need it is the logic of someone who has never worried about a medical emergency that could spell bankruptcy overnight.

    I'm sure this is less about their indifference to what this means for those enrollees, and more about finding ways to cripple the ACA so they can justify killing it altogether.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    One side wants universal health care, the other are legit nazis who want you dead.

    "Obviously both sides are the same" - US media

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Which side wants universal healthcare?

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  • [–] 92 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Why the fuck would you kick people off that pay the insurance but never used it. These guys are so stupid.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    When are people gonna start blasting these motherfuckers? We need a Republican cleansing.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Once they see that the midterm doesn't fix everything. People are only passive now because they have faith that we can vote our way out of this. (Not to say voting is a lost cause, everyone should still vote. If you don't vote you are just handing them ligitimicy because they won't have to cheat as hard to "win")

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    We need a revolution

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Almost tempted to believe them. I'm fairly certain they are experts when it comes to fraud.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Oprah deserves a boot to the head for foisting Drs Oz and Phil upon us all. Other reasons too, but especially this one.

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    Oz told reporters that 35 percent of people in the system “never used the program,” having never seen a doctor or filled a prescription.

    But not for nonpayment.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Don't ask for proof, that just exposes their cruelty.

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