To second your sentiments, I would probably pick it up for the first time... I abhor PvP, but the concept of the game sounds interesting enough to warrant checking it out.

I couldn't deal with the sociopathy anymore either. Like I'm trusting you thru the entire raid and then betrayal at the exit... I know it's just a game but there really is something twisted about it.

I basically detested the whole game. The core loop is just sneak and loot trash. Carry trash to extraction where someone will try to grief you. The guns felt meh. The AI voice thing was just weird.IDK if there was a story in there, but after 5-6 hours I was completely over it. Even with PvE I have no interest in the game itself because at its core it just felt like a shit version of fallout.

The ARC devs have been the latter up until this point.

I'm also unsure that a PvE mode will be good for the game. I know there are some people who don't want anything to do with PvP, but I think what the majority are tired of when it comes to PvP is deception. Players acting friendly but then killing you when you least expect it.

I think what the Chinese dev team is doing might be a better fix. That or a faction system, so you can immediately see if another player will be hostile

While there are plenty of people like this, there's more to PvP than that.

PvP is, first and foremost, about an unpredictable kind of danger. You can learn the behaviors of NPC mobs, and while you'll look very cool dealing with 'em all, you may lose a thrill and adrenaline rush that comes with engaging the enemy you don't know. And you don't always know what the other person is up to.

Looting with no risk gets super boring super fast; unless they provide some steep incentives for NOT queueing up in PvE only, this game is going to fall flat on its face.

This is a fascinating take. You feel adding an optional extra mode will make the game fail? Not adding it will allow it to succeed?

The goal is increasing the user base, right? I'm someone who never plays PvP. I'll never play Arc Raiders without a full PvE option. You seem to be full in PvP. You're already playing. If they add this mode, I'll likely buy it and play the PvE maps. I suppose the question is, will you stop playing PvP?

Concerning your statement about risk, it's completely your opinion. I find games like Power Washing Simulator incredibly boring, but they're successful enough to inspire sequels and clones. The solution is simple: I don't play them. If someone finds PvE boring, they can elect to never play. I find plenty of challenge in other PvE games like Helldivers 2, Deep Rock Galactic, Borderlands, and a myriad of other dedicated co-op (no PvP or "versus" mode) games. So for someone to say "I don't like this mode so I don't think it should be there" is a nonsensical response to me.

They could make the robots much harder or change the extraction more risky.

I have not played this game, only watched some videos but there are ways to rebalance a game without ruining it. It is up to the devs to figure out how they will do that.

It was originally supposed to be a coop PvE game, but turned into PvPvE along the way.

The PvE and PvP lobbies are basically like that already. I have carebear lobbies for solo and trios are pure PvP. People literally do naked runs where of they don't get the right spawn, they surrender and try again until they get the right spawn, then run straight there and loot, throw the thing in their safe pocket and surrender. The only time people fight arc in the PvP lobbies is if they are stopping them from looting the players they just killed.

Night raids, Hurricane, Locked Gate, etc. are all not eligible for PvE lobbies in the new system, and the loot value is reduced if you do PvE.

What happened to helldivers?

There are historically a lot of instances of players of PvE games demanding deathmatch modes and getting them, so why not this?

Wasn't Arc Raiders a PVE and PVP game from the start? Players can choose to team up or fight each other, there are no explicit rules on how to handle an objective.

What's wrong with people playing a game, and then going eh it's okay but it would be nice if it had this other feature. Then devs listen to players and make it more fun for everyone, more games sell to those who held off because it lacked the other feature, and everyone wins.

Except the people who play exclusively PvP, since all the easy targets leave for PVE and they actually have to play only with other more experience players 😂

I mean they basically built in griefing as a mechanic, which isn't fun for anyone who isn't a griefer. Acknowledging that most people find that tedious is the least surprising development in the history of developments.

Even worse; the game already has functionally pve only servers. The game explicitly matches you with players who match your aggression.