You don't say the Canada, the Ireland, the Iraq, the Japan, etc...

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[–] 13 points 1 month ago*

When it was a part of the USSR it was mainly called "The Ukraine". Since independence, dropping "the" is preferred. But older people will have heard it called "The Ukraine" most of their lives.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The United States of America, The Soviet Union, The Maldives,

    I'm sure there are others

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    "The" in those names is referring to the structure of the state, rather than the name; "The United States", "The Union" (Maldives is actually "The Republic of the Maldives").

    From wikipedia:

    In the English-speaking world during most of the 20th century, Ukraine (whether independent or not) was referred to as "the Ukraine".[19] This is because in Russian, the word ukraina means 'borderland' so the definite article would be natural in the English language; this is similar to Nederlanden, which means 'low lands' and is rendered in English as 'the Netherlands'.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Well we do say The Gambia, The United States, The Republic of Korea...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    It means like "the edge" - which is what it was - like "the borderlands". But plenty of places have the in the title optionally

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    It's a fair peeve, since it calls back to Soviet era bullshit.

    But it's gonna take a few more decades before it dies out now that Ukraine is the forefront of resistance, and is likely to be. I think it would have been over and done soon were it not for that. Only older gen-x and older were really using "the Ukraine" on a regular basis that I could tell. Us gen-xers were phasing it out overall just because it's one less word to type.

    But with the news being crammed full of both naming versions, it's gonna drag it out

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    In German we use the article only for feminine countries. Yes, everything has a gender in German, even countries. We say "Die Ukraine", but just "England" and not "Das England".

    But English has lost its grammatical genders some 800 years ago, I guess that's too long ago for being the reason.

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