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[–] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It sucks. I worked in our family business when I was pretty young, as did all my brothers. It wasn't grueling labor or anything like that, it's more like they would just have to have me around while they were working to keep an eye on me, and would give me tasks if for no other reason than to keep me from getting underfoot / in trouble. As I got older I got more complicated tasks, and that evolved pretty seamlessly to me being a regular unpaid employee, until I was able to get a job elsewhere and get paid, which I did as soon as I was able. I still did some extra-curricular stuff, but if I didn't have practice or something I would be expected to be at the store, doing either homework or store work.

I also have a hard time making friends outside of work. Probably unrelated.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    well, if your u/n is anything to go by i can name a community or two in california or oregon you'd do find a good fit in. at least my bio grandfather (another queer lil hayseed) did.

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  • I've thought about it a lot, more frequently in the Trump era. Cascadia sounds very nice, I think I'd like it there. I've never really had the money to move easily, so it's kind of theoretical, but if things got worse I think I could find a way to get out. But if I could, as things stand today, I don't think I would. I'm not that badly off, relatively, I have a lot of friends and some family here that I don't want to leave in the lurch, and this is my home, dang it, I'm not going to let the bastards continue to wreck the place and exploit the people I love just because I managed to scrape together enough to flee. I have no harsh judgement for people who do; a lot of people don't have safe families or stable housing here, and I don't blame them for going elsewhere to find them. Humans need those things. I have the privilege of being able to stay and fight, so that's what I aim to do.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    My grandfather had a lumber mill where I and my other siblings and cousins worked during the Summers stacking lumber working the forklift at a young age. Great man taught us a lot about life and hard work, and he paid us well and under the table.

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  • The child in the supreme court case that led to this exemption in the US did nothing but school and work.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Family business either rocks or is the worst thing ever. Usually it's tge latter.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Restrictions to child labor in the US are about factory work. And states are passing exceptions so that teens, especially delinquent teens, can work near dangerous machinery.

    But kids have always been allowed to do agricultural work for less than minimum wage.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Luckily my parents paid me for work. First it was super easy tasks for allowance, by the time I was in highschool, I was on the payroll.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I lucked out on this one; had three cars in high school (a mercedes (two actually would swap with my brother), a volvo, a jaguar). A credit card. A computer in the early 2000s that cost 4k . Even had an apartment bought for me. But I was stubborn and decided to couch surf to figure out things on my own. Yeah I'm kinda dumb. 🙃

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Oh well, if you aren't paying them, then its fine.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Family owned businesses. Aka Didn't Earn It

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    [–] 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Their parents are okay with it!

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    For a lot of families, that's just how it's always been, and how it's had to be, in order to keep the farm running. Having the kids work in the family business is a sign of poverty, same as sending them to work somewhere else. A lot of them are OK with it; the "I worked on the farm since I was 5 and I turned out OK" theme gets trotted out. Others have reservations but no viable alternatives, so they just don't think about it. Being that poor sucks ass for the whole family.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    farmers today are millionaires and characterizations like this help mask this reality as they keep voting for people like trump.

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  • Most of them are, at least in the US. A lot of farmers are genuinely wealthy and live a life of ease. Some of them are land rich, meaning they inherited a land title that's now worth 6-7 figures on paper and little else. Every year, some of the latter are at long last forced to sell their last asset (often below market value) and become regular poor, and the rich farmers (and the financiers) get a little bit richer.

    Sometimes it's not a farm, but some other established business outfit, farms are just peculiar because they need a significant chunk of real estate attached to them to be economically sustainable, usually, and the value of the land doesn't depreciate as the rest of the business shrivels.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Hot take. Child labor can be a good thing.

    The trick is to not exploit them. But a job, a couple hours a day, can build a whole lot of character and life skills. It feels good to accomplish things with tangible benefits.

    I think the problem is that capitalism has no regard for child welfare, hence children in coal mines and meat packing plants. But a few hours after school, once or twice a week, in a job that won't maim spirit or flesh? Hell ya.

    One of the most rewarding jobs I had as a teenager was a "waiter" at an old folks home. Get them water, condiments, etc. just generally be around and helpful at meal times. Twas a perfect job for a teenager.

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