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Every year 8.7 million people die to fossil fuels (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/75183994

Fossil fuel air pollution responsible for 1 in 5 deaths worldwide

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[–] 7 points 2 months ago

Well yes, but do you know how many people get filthy rich? /s

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    [+] -6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Ok, let's stop using fossil fuels right now and count how many will die because of that.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That's not what anyone's suggesting.

    Now that you mention it, though, there ARE fossil free alternatives available for almost everything we use fossil fuels for today.

    There's ABSOLUTELY no doubt that, were we to rapidly transition away from all of those, much fewer people would die DURING the transition than are being killed by fossil fuels right now and afterwards, almost nobody for all time.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    💯 we could dramatically reduce fossil fuel usage in only a few years if we actually cared to.

    I know because I've done this on an individual basis without any significant decrease in quality of life, and the options available to a whole society are even greater.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    If all narcotics disappeared today, a ton of people would get seriously ill or die from withdrawal

    Guess narcotics are good and we shouldn't try to reduce their usage

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 months ago

    Good analogy, bad specific example.

    As much misery and death as can result from substance abuse, most narcotics can actually be beneficial (or at least not severely harmful) when using appropriate amounts the right way.

    Burning fossil fuels, on the other hand, has only ever been a bad and EXTREMELY harmful (but lucrative) way of accomplishing things that could increasingly be achieved without it.

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    [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Related (and awesome) video essay:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OtIAZMqrZE

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    [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Wish we could collectively sue them for endangering our lives...

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    especially since it's documented that they've lied about CO2 induced climate change since the 1960s and have paid conservatives in every country in the world to disregard the warnings and disasters, while continually expanding extraction and opposing renewables.

    At the least, trials, including prison time. Considering the scope of the crimes, I wouldn't oppose harsher outcomes - they've doomed generations to ever growing desperation while they cook.

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    • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That's pretty badass that dinosaurs are still killing humans.

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    • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    I couldn’t care less about humans dying. It’s the poor animals that are the victims.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Indigenous people are victims too. They've worked with and not against the earth for millennia and it's the more privileged who have made this our reality. It's not for a white anglo like myself or others to condemn those people yet again.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    You can make it about race if you want it to be, but I’ll be over there.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    They didn't. The abusive rich and powerful white people who were either racist, indifferent towards vulnerable groups, or both, made it about (amongst other things) race.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Death to all Humanity. Long live Earth.

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago

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    [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Meanwhile, we're about to see a new wave of right-wing parties because gas is too expensive. People, man...

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    [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Sometimes I confuse this community with !flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com because the same posts get popular both places.

    Though if it werent for the community names being visible, people talking in the comments blaming right-wing people and parties give it away. (Rightfully so but the focus of critisism is different)

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    [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Scooping leaked crude oil from the sea fucks terrorism...?

    Reminds me of:

    7bdjuXLnJk6ps39.gif

    Bible stabbing is the enemy? / Bible is the enemy, nazis are the good guys?

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