The political figure’s 56-year-old son made the reveal to Luke Beasley on the latter’s eponymous podcast (below), during a comical opening bit at the top of the program’s latest episode.

“Let’s get serious. I am gay,” Beasley told Biden, who replied, “Really? Wow. Seriously. I’m so amazed you’re gay.”

Beasley turned to Biden and asked, “Are you gay?” to which Biden said, “Only a little bit.”

When Beasley inquired if he was “more or less than 50 percent” gay, Biden confirmed that the number stood at “48.6” percent.

Later, Biden brought a separate line of questioning back to “the gay question,” as he called it. “Maybe I take back 48.5. More like 47 after that conversation. My gaydom went down a percentage point.”

Then, at the end of the interview, Biden brought up the topic a final time, telling Beasley, “I just wanted to let you know that I am back up to 48.5 percent gay.”