Retatrutide, not yet approved by the FDA, is the latest wonder drug to shed pounds despite warnings from doctors

Physicians see the drug as a promising potential solution for people struggling with obesity, but strongly warn patients that they are seriously risking their health by using it without oversight from doctors and government regulators. Yet these warnings often go unheeded.

“All of these medications should be monitored and prescribed in a medical situation where the doctor or the clinic is partnering with the patient on a complete plan” including “monitoring their lab [work], their vital signs, their response”, said Dr David Shafer, a plastic surgeon in New York who takes the drug. “It’s really the self-prescribing and unknown usage that is leading to a lot of the problems.”

Retatrutide could work well in helping people lose weight – and potentially have other health benefits – because whereas Ozempic targets one receptor, and tirzepatide, sold as Mounjaro and Zepbound, targets GLP-1 and the receptor GIP, the newer drug is a “triple agonist”, meaning it targets those two receptors and glucagon, which speeds up the body’s metabolism and helps it break down fat cells for energy.

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[–] 6 points 2 months ago (7 children)

If people can't get GLP drugs legitimately, then of course they will go to the grey market, and since all the peptides cost roughly the same to manufacture, it's obvious they will go for the newest and most powerful.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (6 children)

    This is about one specific drug that is not even out of clinical trials yet. There is no way to get reta. Getting semaglutide or tirzepatide is comically easy through the million telehealth companies.

    Reta you can only get on the grey market, in powder form, and you have to compound it yourself.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I understand that.

    My point is, the main reason people go to the grey market is because it's far more accessible because it's far cheaper.

    And once they go to the suppliers they are all the same cost, so it seems obvious to go for the "best".

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    The grey market isn’t that much cheaper. The telehealth companies are so ridiculously cheap today. And those are not the grey market.

    You can get semaglutide for less than $70 a month all in, which is cheaper than what you’ll get on the grey market when you factor in all the consumables you also have to buy like bacteriostatic water to compound it yourself, needles, alcohol pads, etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Well Reta isn’t approved yet at all, so there’s no other market to compare. Ive compared tirz to the telehealth providers though and you can find tirz for $89 a month for any dose and sema for $49 a month.

    On the grey market, tirz is ~$110 for 60mg. Which is right about 4 weeks worth at the 15mg dose, and 6 weeks at 10mg. Which makes it right on par with the telehealth, or a little more expensive when you factor in getting bacteriostatic water to compound it, syringes, needles, and alcohol swabs since those are pretty much always included with the telehealth route.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I assume that's from a compounding pharmacy? We don't have the same access to those in the UK, here the lowest you will find it for is £200

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    I don’t doubt it. My insurance doesn’t cover GLP-1s for any reason, including other medically necessary ones. With prices approaching $1,000/mo, and people seeing the efficacy of them, it’s no wonder they’re turning to cheaper options.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Correct and probably one of the biggest reasons they’re taking that route is insurance isn’t covering it or it’s too expensive. Same with insulin.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    This one is NOT even approved yet. There is no way to get it outside of the grey market unless you are in the trial for it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I’m referring to GLP1s in general.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children)

    The article is literally about people that are already on GLP-1s, but want to see even more progress so they jump to the grey market for the newest thing.

    GLP-1s in general are easy to get and pretty cheap. You can get semaglutide (Ozempic/WeGovy) from several telehealth pharmacies for like $70 a month.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Cool story and I’m adding to it by noting that insurance and cost issues are affecting more than just this one.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    GLP1s are cheap and easy to get. Cheaper than what you save from eating less food when you're on them, and you can get them easily online from the myriad of telehealth companies.

    That's not what this article is about though. This article is about people specifically jumping to the grey market to get retatrutide because they want more progress than they're getting on the legal GLP-1s.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    that's an issue with testing being expensive, and is extremely easy to fix (build more labs)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    what's stopping the purchaser from getting it tested?

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    [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    How did this weight losing craze not happen to stimulants like lisdexamfetamine dimesylate? Or maybe it did happen?

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