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elementary OS: PayPal account banned for “unusual activity” (mastodon.social)
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[–] 38 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Welcome to the club :P

Not surprising coming from PayPal, elementary OS should really just move away from them. Fun fact: If their PayPal account was banned that means all recent donators that sent them money through PayPal were also banned/had their accounts frozen.

I used to use PayPal maybe 15-20 years ago and used to donate to FOSS projects with it. At one point PayPal decided I was being shady and banned my account. At the time figured it was just my own problem but later on I heard from one of those FOSS projects, turned out that their own PayPal account was banned in the process due to receiving money from a banned account.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    elementary OS should really just move away from them

    To where?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Maybe IBAN/SWIFT

    Crypto?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    AFAIK, getting actual money into and more importantly, out of Crypto, to pay for things like food, not to mention picking one, is "non-trivial".

    As for IBAN/SWIFT, that's like publishing your bank account details online which has a whole lot of other risks associated with it, least of which is people supplying your details to a charity of their choice.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago*

    AFAIK, getting actual money into and more importantly, out of Crypto, to pay for things like food, not to mention picking one, is “non-trivial”.

    Yes, but it is achievable. Routing around financial censorship is one of the things crypto is good at, because the rest of the financial system is designed to support people being cut off from its use at the whims of payment providers and governments.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Ideally cryptocurrencies, that's what I usually use to donate to FOSS projects nowadays.

    But aside from that Liberapay and Ko-fi seem to work fine for a ton of projects.. this is assuming the project maintainers(s) are able to set up Stripe to receive the donation money afterwards.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Stripe and PayPal are both used by Liberapay as their payment processor, both of which have a track record of holding funds and blocking accounts without any due process or right of dispute.

    AFAIK ko-fi uses Stripe.

    Paying for food using crypto, let alone picking the "right" one seems like another dead end.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Crypto is another beast. It would be a superior choice if stable coins built on with privacy in mind, such as monero where popular. But the fact is different, there isn't a clear consensus as to what currency is for what purpose. There is also other issues, but oh well.

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    • [–] 64 points 2 months ago

    Hate Paypal, crappy service

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    [–] 17 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    May not be relevant, but I like

    https://en.liberapay.com/

    https://opencollective.com/

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Liberapay uses Stripe and PayPal as their payment processor.

    OpenCollective appears to use PayPal and Wise as their payment processor.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I have had Wise refuse to do transfers all of a sudden. When asked why I was told they could not tell me why. So how can I "fix" it? I would not trust them either.

    At the end of the day there are not going to be many options as running these sorts of services are not cheap/easy to do.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, I've been looking for alternatives for several years now. I'm hoping that the European digital currency efforts will translate into something that will facilitate global creator income, but it's unclear how far away that is or what the reality might be.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I think OC mostly does payments with PayPal. But at least they have other options.

    It's crazy how many services are just thin skin apps with PayPal in the bg

    Edit: looks like librapay is also paypal. But they also offer stripe as an alternative.

    But neither OC nor LP are alternatives to PayPal. I mean neither are payment processors. They're both dependent on other payment processors.

    We need a real PayPal alternative, in addition to crypto

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    • [–] 20 points 2 months ago

    Wtaf

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    [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Just like Microsoft closing Libreoffice’s Outlook account for reasons.

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    [–] 13 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Did they end up on a US terrorism list for offering free things like filthy communists?

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    • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    My paypal account was forcibly closed for no given reason. I still don't know why.

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    [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I had my paypal account deleted back in 2011 due to the wikileaks witch hunt at that time. Paypal was withholding money going from a crowdfunding campaign to Julian Assange. In hindsight, that should've been Europe's wake-up call, but of course, who could've seen the looming cliff behind a handsome fella like Obama.

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    [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I had a PayPal account at some point for some reason. Then one day I was out with my family and my phone started getting blown up with password reset requests, then emails from PayPal saying there was suspicious activity on my account originating in India, and then I immediately removed all payment methods from my account, and shut down the account. Never again.

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    • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I don't understand how anyone uses PayPal.

    All my old accounts were banned years ago. I tried to create replacement accounts, and they got a message that my account was deleted literally before I was able to login for the first time.

    I literally was banned before I even had the ability to violate their ToS. It's just false positive nonsense

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