It's illegal for you to do that because you're not a billionaire.
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Since this was posted he had his house removed from Google Maps
Well then think we should make sure to post his address online for all to find easily.
Benn Jordan and Tommy G tried this. It didn't take long before police were called to remove them from the public road next to Flock HQ.
did he say why they "must compromise"?
Because refusing to allow him to commit crimes would interfere with his ability to make money doing it.
Like, just stop screaming and let it happen, you'll like it, trust me.
The irony, of course, is if you want to beat whatever charges they throw at you, you'll also have to be filming yourself the entire time.
The YouTubes are awash with auditors who set up a camera in a public place and have the cops make up all sorts of stories about them to fabricate or threaten an arrest.
Check your state laws about filming private residences, though, that might get squirrely.
Or track ones private jets takeoffs and landings
This is the thing that I don't get about the legality of this shit. If I set up a camera aimed at my neighbor's driveway and intentionally logged every coming and going of he, his wife, his kids... I could justiably be charged with stalking. But so long as I set up a network of cameras and track my neighbor's every whereabouts with this network and sell access to this data to anyone interested... that's not stalking. That's just good American business.
That is without the added layer of law enforcement involvement, tax dollar support, and absolutely no public say in the matters, etc.
The history of the US is filled with "nah, capital can do what it wants".
Nothing will change while power is consolidated in the hands of the few.
I do wonder about who works at flock. Surely they have options to resist and sabotage from the inside.
Theyre different than his product because you would have a lot less information and arent able to follow him to his destination.
I seriously believe that unless a guillotine is involved things will continue to just get worse.
How to roll out nation-wide public cameras against the peoples interests?
- have a visible and clumsy company (Palantir) distract the public
- have a second company (Axon) quietly roll out hidden cameras
How about he lead by example, and have a fleet of drones follow him providing a 24/7 publicly available feed.
I'm pretty sure my Yankee friends do not have to compromise whatsoever. Fuck this CEO. I hope you guys guillotine him.
Hey, thanks for the support. Being an American these days feels like everyone is against you.
Those outside the USA bitch about us butting in with no understanding of political nuance in their country sure do the same to us.
Tbf, I think many of us outsiders understand the nuance of the USA more than the average American understands about other countries', because we are bombarded constantly with your news and actually need to pay attention since the actions of your country affect us greatly.
I see a lot of people saying that Trump voters and those that voted against him are the same and deserve the same treatment. As well a surprising amount that are blood thirsty and wanting to see us start gunning each other down.
Again, as a counterpoint, I also see similar comments on other countries' oppressive governments too.
It's always, "why aren't they resisting?" Or, "they wouldn't dare try this on me! I've got guns and I'll fight back!"
In the end, we all talk tough on the internet and expect everyone to be as heroic as us we imagine ourselves to be. Just do your best out there, and stay safe.
Cause we are.
This is a horrific example. It's very legal to do what is described above.
The answer is, he is an individual, and Flock cameras are not targeting any one individual, at least not in theory.
Also, I see the argument he's making. The argument is, if it were your child who was kidnapped, would you not want your neighbors to give up some of their privacy in order to turn cameras on every corner toward getting your child home safely? But the problem with that is, Flock cameras are not bringing kidnapped kids home. Neither are Ring doorbells, which are just as bad. What they are doing is making life worse for people of colour and anyone else They want to target. So that's the problem. The parent can't blame their neighbours (particularly their dark-skinned neighbours) for wanting their privacy when a child's safety is on the line, because the Flock cameras are not bringing any children home. That's not what they're for, and pretending they are is bullshit and everybody on both sides knows it. We COULD use all this tech for good. But the people who run it don't want to. They've proven this time and again. So no, they do not get the benefit of the doubt. No, they do not get to take the high road, even hypothetically.
Beat him with a pillowcase full of oranges
Is that child in the picture the CEO?
Sigh. It's different because you are specifically targetting him which is illegal. Their argument is this is untargetting mass surveillance. This is what makes it ok. If you can prove (and you won't) that flock is individually targetting and tracking you then yes we have a problem and the sentiment in the image is correct
I get the sentiment of the image but Jesus Christ it's lazy. They are two different things. You should all understand that. Fight the right fight. This is a problem with the law, not the person.
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This argument really doesn’t understand the concept of nuance. How many cameras would I have to put up before it’s not targeting? If I just happen to have enough cameras to capture every single path he takes is that targeting? Where is the line drawn? Almost all of the legal arguments were well before the technology we have today regarding retention and searchability.
And differentiation between the person and the law is inherently the problem. He was able to create this company because of the ambiguity of the law. If it were cut and dry they never would have risked the investment in the first place. Between the extensive network and the giant loophole of the third party doctrine, even though they market the directly to LEOs and the government, it all seems like a giant unlawful and unconstitutional government search.
I have no idea what the solution is but at the very least there should be accountability for improper searches and in my mind should require a warrant for EVERY search.
This is a problem with the law, not the person.
I guarantee that the person is making considerable effort to ensure that the law continues to serve the corporation he leads and resists any attempts to change it by the "peasant" class he clearly disdains.
The problem is with the law, the person, and the socioeconomic class that the person belongs to and the laws ultimately serve.

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