Your communications can’t be compromised if you don’t communicate lol
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Supreme privacy. Two can only keep a secret if one of them is dead.
I have two contacts
Maybe all your contacts also value their privacy and therefore have not set signal to allow them to be discovered by their phone number
If that's the case, then i would be more happier to get their usernames atleast. But the situation is way worse than that. They are deeply into whatsapp.
Do they have a need to communicate with you?
If so, you can just not install WhatsApp. Smartphones allow them to install multiple communicating apps, so your friends could remember to use signal when talking to you.
I have notifications on when someone joins and maybe 75% of the time after I see the notification their account is "deleted" because they changed the privacy settings.
It's not the end of the world but I do wish more people wouldn't automatically pick the maximum privacy setting so that we could actually, yknow use it
I have a handful of friends and family that did actually switch, but I still have a few stubborn friends on Discord that do t see the point. Just waiting for Discord to fuck up badly enough...
I have 1 friend who I talk to exclusively over discord DMs.
The server went down for about 6 hours when we were chatting and he made a signal account.
Then he deleted it after the outage 😭
Discord not even letting me to creare an account. The OTP never get generated. And i believe that's for good.
Many open-source developers also effectively using discord as a communication medium.
Discord is already a haven for groomers, zoosadists, and more. Not sure what levels of "fucking up" they'd need to do, to get normies to bail.
For as long as they type a message, hit send, and the other person receives, they'll keep on using it no matter what Users are stubborn to change, they only really do when they can't do the basic thing
They dont know about any of that stuff and they don't wander in the public spaces of discord. I think forcing the ID on all users will do the trick. They just haven't enforced it yet.
So one's friends become zoosadists - whatever that is - if they're chatting via discord?
The argument that there's creeps using a platform is moot if you're using it to communicate with your friends. Which is what people do. It's so weird to me, like, the same can be said about Signal etc etc but nooooo, there it's only the good ones chatting. Get outta here with this shit.
So one’s friends become zoosadists - whatever that is - if they’re chatting via discord?
I honestly have no idea how you deduced that this was what I was saying.
How do I put this, the fact that a platform may be used by unsavory characters in some specific capacity and context does not affect normal people who use it to communicate with friends - which is what chat apps were designed to do. People use discord to talk to their friends while playing games. They use WhatsApp, signal, telegram and so on to text with friends. At least that's the primary usage. Now if one were to venture out into the wild and start engaging with strange animal fuckers in obscure channels etc, that is something that doesn't play into the average user experience.
I got all my friends to switch to signal!
I started when it was still called TextSecure, I had precisely 1 contact (just my nerdy friend from uni) for the first 3 years. I then convinced my partner to install it, had 2 contacts for the next few years.
When it became Signal, a few more jumped on. Once I had kids; I bullied my family onto it, by refusing to send photos any other way.
I have 62 contacts now, the bulk of my digital communication is through either Signal, phone, email or Lemmy. There is a little SMS/RCS.
It has been a 15 year journey so far, for me. You will get there.
What if I'm in my 50s and i don't have half that number of contacts anywhere. Will I still get there.
And if those 30ish contacts find me on signal, where am I supposed to go and hide next.
I've 36 contacts. I started 3 years ago. In a country where people stare at me for solid 3-5 seconds before they utter a word when I tell them I don't ise whatsapp. Love it.
We'll get there.
OG here too. I remember when they first supported voice calls. It was a separate app called redphone.
All the more motivation to encourage your friends to get on signal. I've had a discussion this week with someone, on fedi, who just can't conceive of getting off Meta products, like WhatSapp, because it has so much usage in Europe. Our work isn't done; not yet.
That person doesn't need to leave WhatsApp completely right away. They can just talk to some people on Signal and others on WhatsApp.
It's very hard to convince people to switch to privacy foucused platforms nowadays.
When I switched to Signal I enforced it hard. Refused to talk to anyone on another platform. If they texted me, I'd responed, but always add "I'd prefer if we discussed this over Signal."
I had more success than I'd anticipated. About 90% of my family and 80% of my friends moved over.
My best piece of advice for this is to start new group chats - people want to be in the group chats, and if they believe Signal is where it's all happening, they'll join.
There's a CLI which is nice. I use it to communicate with my self-hosted personal assistant, while I'm on the go.
Official CLI or a third party client?
By "self-hosted personal assistant" you mean LLM?
You mean a secretary who lives at your house?
The hay day of PDAs must have been really confusing for you.
I'm not sure what public displays of affection have to do with anything.
I am sure they talk about this, or smth similiar https://www.home-assistant.io/
At least i got 3 people to install Signal just for me.
I have two contacts. My wife, who I text/communicate with more than anyone else, and a long distance friend.
It took begging and pleading for years to get my wife to agree to it. She finally agreed after it came out that the phone network was likely hacked by China.
I tried to get another friend to use it, at whick point he asked if that was the app at the center of whiskey leaks. He never installed it.
after it came out that the phone network was likely hacked by China.
You're referring to the phone network in the USA, right? It blows my mind that more people don't know about it. China (specifically, Salt Typhoon) infiltrated the USA phone network in 2022. The infiltration was only discovered in 2024, and China still has not been evicted. Apparently the eviction will not be complete until compromised Huawei network hardware is extirpated.
Considering that PRISM is a thing, I think people already assume that all usage of the phone network is non-private. What difference does it make if China is reading my messages, when the USA already is, and the USA can actually arrest or murder me unlike China.
Yes I'm referring to Salt Typhoon. It is bonkers that this way, basically any phone/text conversation can be surveiled by not only the NSA, but by a foreign government.
I have a Matrix server hosted with tons of cool plugins, bots, and settings to get it as close to Discord as possible. Can’t get anyone to use it lol. Don’t care. I’ll continue to pay for it for when we truly need it.
What I want out of a Discord-a-like:
- Screen sharing / game sharing
- Voice chat
- Text chat
- Video chat (voice + camera)
Do your bots and plugins make that possible?
I literally got Signal because my sister told me to get on it. That's the only contact I have on Signal.
When the Recent Fascist Takeover happened, an American friend asked me for app opinions - I told him Signal was great, aside of the fact that the desktop app keeps getting updated every femtosecond. ...we're still talking over Discord, sad to say.
Signal keeps suggesting I add a contact for my old boss. (Who was a cool guy, but not cool enough to keep in contact with years afterwards.) Actually, when I had an internship a few years afterwards, the new boss's preferred app was Telegram, so, uh, a red flag? ...Yeah, didn't get that job.
Lemmy memes signal groupchat when?
DM me for invite. You can trust me. I'm Agent641
Found Kegseth's alt
C'mon bro, we're clean on opsec bro, join the group bro!
Add my number so tht you have one contact
I made a stoat account to escape discord with a few friends and this image is exactly what happened. Majority of people we know aren't inconvenienced enough to move on.
You can contact me on signal. I mean, I probably won't respond. But you can.
I saw my mom's Signal today.. Only me 😅
My mother in law actually surprised me by asking if the family group chat could switch to signal. I wasnt going to bother her about it because i assumed shed hate it since shes bad with technology. It was a pleasant surprise.
I have friends who refuse to install Signal despite having 10+ friends who I know use it. Big ups to ur mom
For a while, it was just my one buddy I convinced to use it and I, but then I got hired at a new company and hit it off with the resident cybersec OG! Having Signal ready to rock gave a great first impression :)
I'm actually surprised by how easily I was able to get my whole family and several friends on there, it's my main messaging platform now. The only others are sms and steam chat.
Typical security advice is to turn off "find me by my number" in the Signal security settings. You may well have friends who use Signal, but have turned that setting off. You may consider turning it off yourself. Also, you should turn off "see my number" on the same settings screen.
::Pete Hegseth has entered the chat::
I actually have my main groupchat on signal, but I think that has more to do with having friends that do drugs than anything else.
If only you could also text from the Signal App. I used to have multiple signal contacts, but every single one of them dropped it when they dropped SMS support.
Which means they actually didn't use signal at all.
They used SMS and are still continuing using SMS.
Yes, but their communications with me and each other were secure, which is a lot better than they're doing now.
Did using signal with the old SMS feature privided any additional level of privacy or security? Means, no matter what all the SMS are unencrypted and goes through ISP right?
I had a contact that wouldn't use Signal as he thought it wasn't private enough, and recommended Sessions, but would never respond to any messages.
Ironically, I only went to that because I ditched Facebook and Messenger, which he was fine using. :rolleyes:
I love Session messenger as a decentralised solution, but man it sucks how little people want to change their habits

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