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[–] 189 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Your communications can’t be compromised if you don’t communicate lol

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  • [–] 106 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Supreme privacy. Two can only keep a secret if one of them is dead.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Maybe all your contacts also value their privacy and therefore have not set signal to allow them to be discovered by their phone number

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If that's the case, then i would be more happier to get their usernames atleast. But the situation is way worse than that. They are deeply into whatsapp.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Do they have a need to communicate with you?

    If so, you can just not install WhatsApp. Smartphones allow them to install multiple communicating apps, so your friends could remember to use signal when talking to you.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 months ago

    Actually, deletion of whatsapp and instagram drastically decreased my friend circle. Now i have more time for myself. I don't think they have a reason to communicate with me. Anyway, am not installing whatsapp anymore.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I have notifications on when someone joins and maybe 75% of the time after I see the notification their account is "deleted" because they changed the privacy settings.

    It's not the end of the world but I do wish more people wouldn't automatically pick the maximum privacy setting so that we could actually, yknow use it

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    [–] 25 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    I have a handful of friends and family that did actually switch, but I still have a few stubborn friends on Discord that do t see the point. Just waiting for Discord to fuck up badly enough...

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 2 months ago

    Discord not even letting me to creare an account. The OTP never get generated. And i believe that's for good.

    Many open-source developers also effectively using discord as a communication medium.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Discord is already a haven for groomers, zoosadists, and more. Not sure what levels of "fucking up" they'd need to do, to get normies to bail.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    So one's friends become zoosadists - whatever that is - if they're chatting via discord?

    The argument that there's creeps using a platform is moot if you're using it to communicate with your friends. Which is what people do. It's so weird to me, like, the same can be said about Signal etc etc but nooooo, there it's only the good ones chatting. Get outta here with this shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    So one’s friends become zoosadists - whatever that is - if they’re chatting via discord?

    I honestly have no idea how you deduced that this was what I was saying.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    How do I put this, the fact that a platform may be used by unsavory characters in some specific capacity and context does not affect normal people who use it to communicate with friends - which is what chat apps were designed to do. People use discord to talk to their friends while playing games. They use WhatsApp, signal, telegram and so on to text with friends. At least that's the primary usage. Now if one were to venture out into the wild and start engaging with strange animal fuckers in obscure channels etc, that is something that doesn't play into the average user experience.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I got all my friends to switch to signal!

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I started when it was still called TextSecure, I had precisely 1 contact (just my nerdy friend from uni) for the first 3 years. I then convinced my partner to install it, had 2 contacts for the next few years.

    When it became Signal, a few more jumped on. Once I had kids; I bullied my family onto it, by refusing to send photos any other way.

    I have 62 contacts now, the bulk of my digital communication is through either Signal, phone, email or Lemmy. There is a little SMS/RCS.

    It has been a 15 year journey so far, for me. You will get there.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What if I'm in my 50s and i don't have half that number of contacts anywhere. Will I still get there.

    And if those 30ish contacts find me on signal, where am I supposed to go and hide next.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I'm sure some genius has made a texting protocol that requires installing Linux and can only be utilized by console with sudo access.

    You can finally get some peace and quiet.

    Except from fucking Phil. That guy is the worst.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    All the more motivation to encourage your friends to get on signal. I've had a discussion this week with someone, on fedi, who just can't conceive of getting off Meta products, like WhatSapp, because it has so much usage in Europe. Our work isn't done; not yet.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's very hard to convince people to switch to privacy foucused platforms nowadays.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Generally that's not been my experience. Person to Person it's been pretty easy for the most part. I can think of one exception from the past decade, one of those "I just can't start using another app" sorts. YMMV. Persistence furthers.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Nothing more private than that.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    When I switched to Signal I enforced it hard. Refused to talk to anyone on another platform. If they texted me, I'd responed, but always add "I'd prefer if we discussed this over Signal."

    I had more success than I'd anticipated. About 90% of my family and 80% of my friends moved over.

    My best piece of advice for this is to start new group chats - people want to be in the group chats, and if they believe Signal is where it's all happening, they'll join.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I'm on the receiving end of this from a friend and I didn't even think twice about it. I think we're all in a place now where being asked to install yet another app is pretty commonplace. Plus phone app stores make it relatively painless to do.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    There's a CLI which is nice. I use it to communicate with my self-hosted personal assistant, while I'm on the go.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Official CLI or a third party client?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    By "self-hosted personal assistant" you mean LLM?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    You mean a secretary who lives at your house?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The hay day of PDAs must have been really confusing for you.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    At least i got 3 people to install Signal just for me.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I have two contacts. My wife, who I text/communicate with more than anyone else, and a long distance friend.

    It took begging and pleading for years to get my wife to agree to it. She finally agreed after it came out that the phone network was likely hacked by China.

    I tried to get another friend to use it, at whick point he asked if that was the app at the center of whiskey leaks. He never installed it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    after it came out that the phone network was likely hacked by China.

    You're referring to the phone network in the USA, right? It blows my mind that more people don't know about it. China (specifically, Salt Typhoon) infiltrated the USA phone network in 2022. The infiltration was only discovered in 2024, and China still has not been evicted. Apparently the eviction will not be complete until compromised Huawei network hardware is extirpated.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Considering that PRISM is a thing, I think people already assume that all usage of the phone network is non-private. What difference does it make if China is reading my messages, when the USA already is, and the USA can actually arrest or murder me unlike China.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    I have a Matrix server hosted with tons of cool plugins, bots, and settings to get it as close to Discord as possible. Can’t get anyone to use it lol. Don’t care. I’ll continue to pay for it for when we truly need it.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    What I want out of a Discord-a-like:

    • Screen sharing / game sharing
    • Voice chat
    • Text chat
    • Video chat (voice + camera)

    Do your bots and plugins make that possible?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago*

    I literally got Signal because my sister told me to get on it. That's the only contact I have on Signal.

    When the Recent Fascist Takeover happened, an American friend asked me for app opinions - I told him Signal was great, aside of the fact that the desktop app keeps getting updated every femtosecond. ...we're still talking over Discord, sad to say.

    Signal keeps suggesting I add a contact for my old boss. (Who was a cool guy, but not cool enough to keep in contact with years afterwards.) Actually, when I had an internship a few years afterwards, the new boss's preferred app was Telegram, so, uh, a red flag? ...Yeah, didn't get that job.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Sounds like it worked

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Lemmy memes signal groupchat when?

    DM me for invite. You can trust me. I'm Agent641

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    C'mon bro, we're clean on opsec bro, join the group bro!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Add my number so tht you have one contact

    06769666

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    I made a stoat account to escape discord with a few friends and this image is exactly what happened. Majority of people we know aren't inconvenienced enough to move on.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You can contact me on signal. I mean, I probably won't respond. But you can.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    As usual with social interactions, it's the network effect.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I saw my mom's Signal today.. Only me 😅

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    My mother in law actually surprised me by asking if the family group chat could switch to signal. I wasnt going to bother her about it because i assumed shed hate it since shes bad with technology. It was a pleasant surprise.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    For a while, it was just my one buddy I convinced to use it and I, but then I got hired at a new company and hit it off with the resident cybersec OG! Having Signal ready to rock gave a great first impression :)

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm actually surprised by how easily I was able to get my whole family and several friends on there, it's my main messaging platform now. The only others are sms and steam chat.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Same here, it turned out family and friends wanted to stay in touch! Not a real surprise, but for some reason I kept overthinking and delaying the process.. Once I just asked, all was done within like 20 mins. People made their accounts, I made the groups.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Typical security advice is to turn off "find me by my number" in the Signal security settings. You may well have friends who use Signal, but have turned that setting off. You may consider turning it off yourself. Also, you should turn off "see my number" on the same settings screen.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    ::Pete Hegseth has entered the chat::

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I actually have my main groupchat on signal, but I think that has more to do with having friends that do drugs than anything else.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    If only you could also text from the Signal App. I used to have multiple signal contacts, but every single one of them dropped it when they dropped SMS support.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Which means they actually didn't use signal at all.

    They used SMS and are still continuing using SMS.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, but their communications with me and each other were secure, which is a lot better than they're doing now.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Did using signal with the old SMS feature privided any additional level of privacy or security? Means, no matter what all the SMS are unencrypted and goes through ISP right?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Very private 💪

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I had a contact that wouldn't use Signal as he thought it wasn't private enough, and recommended Sessions, but would never respond to any messages.

    Ironically, I only went to that because I ditched Facebook and Messenger, which he was fine using. :rolleyes:

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I love Session messenger as a decentralised solution, but man it sucks how little people want to change their habits

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