The repugnant blob of mens rights activists, MAGA influencers, manosphere podcasters, and fascists that get their micropayments from X’s dwindling Verified user ad revenue program are not just demonizing the women who have come out in support of Clancy — though, they are certainly doing that — but are also yanking any old video off TikTok they can find of women talking about postpartum depression or the pressures of motherhood and inciting an unimaginable amount of harassment against the original poster.

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[–] 37 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Some asshole was arguing against paid maternity leave by saying “just cause you got cream pied doesn’t mean you get six months off“ and I’m like sir you have a mother.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    He should have ended up as a spat out stain on the ground

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago

    Y'allqueda strikes again.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    This title and this whole situation is incredibly dumb and shouldn't be considered a left wing or right wing issue. This is just a sad situation. I don't feel that this article should be here but whatever

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Bunch of lemmy.world folks, but the one I found who commented was more pissed about the polarizing political language used rather than lacking empathy for mental health of new mothers.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    This article is doing the classic move of lumping thousands of unorganized individuals together and treating them as a collective.

    The very same thing they are calling out as bad behavior.

    SMH, the US has become so polarized...

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    You don't think that "mens rights activists, MAGA influencers, manosphere podcasters, and fascists" are a collective?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children)

    None.

    This is literally as fucking stupid as idiots declaring "antifa" as a organized terrorist organization.

    Theres nothing "organized" about it.

    Tell me, who the fuck is the president of that collective? Do the have meetings and memberships?

    No? Then they arent a fucking collective. That goes for dumbass incels just as much as antifascist protesters.

    Its literally the same stupid generalizing, stop letting yourself get so easily baited into getting polarized, jesus christ.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I get your point, but I think you're misunderstanding the author's intention. He's not trying to build a legal case for prosecution and shared responsibility; he's arguing that political actors (especially on the right) work to exploit social grievances across networks to build coalitions. And, if we look at the last decade, there's PLENTY of examples:

    • Steve Bannon understood Breitbart as a unifying right-wing project that could exploit online grievances. As he wrote to Milo: "Dude---we r in a global existentialist war where our enemy EXISTS in social media and u r jerking yourself off w/ marginalia!!!! U should be OWNING this conversation because u r everything they hate!!! Drop your toys, pick up your tools and go help save western civilization."
    • The entire path of Gamergate from rightwing 4chan swamps into a pro-Trump organizing tool
    • Hell, 4chan launched its /pol forum the same month that its founder met with Jeffrey Epstein

    So it's not a question of "Are all these groups coordinating together?" They're not, and the author doesn't claim they are. And also, that's not really how political coordination works anymore. (Although, group chats among wealthy & influential right wingers are very real)

    It works much more like, "Do all these groups understand themselves to be pursuing somewhat similar goals, and do they avoid intergroup warfare, and do political actors exploit their grievances and rally them around a single cause (like, say, anti-trans issues)?

    And the answer is very much yes.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    The repugnant blob of mens rights activists, MAGA influencers, manosphere podcasters, and fascists that get their micropayments from X’s dwindling Verified user ad revenue program are not just demonizing the women who have come out in support of Clancy — though, they are certainly doing that — but are also yanking any old video off TikTok they can find of women talking about postpartum depression or the pressures of motherhood and inciting an unimaginable amount of harassment against the original poster.

    This entire paragraph, grammatically, refers to these individuals as a whole as "the repugnant blob"

    Its the first 3 words.

    You cant sidestep the fact this is both:

    1. Using inflammatory, derogatory, and unprofessional phrasing to purposely push on emotions as a way to sway the reader. I dont give a shit if the target are people I dislike, Ad Hominem is not good journalism. Its gross

    2. Grammatically frames all these individuals as a collective, sweepingly treating them as a whole. Thats also not okay

    I dont give a shit if the writer is talking about something roughly I sort of agree with, Im still going to call out shitty tactics for being shitty.

    The article is gross and written like a teens Tumblr post. Fuck off with the sweeping generalizations and inflammatory attempts at polarization.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    So much of the zeitgeist is now in service of dividing us. There can and should be reasonable discussions on both sides of this specific story, and indeed on every other story. But we're now conditioned to be in one of two extreme camps, neither of which are reasonable.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago*

    No, both sides of those in power are not doing equal damage.

    But we are most certainly being divided into two to further the cause of the more destructive power (Republicans/billionaires)

    Other than both things being a function of the number two, they’re not the same.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    I understand that there's enough evidence to suggest that her husband may have been responsible, looks like enough for reasonable doubt.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Not to stir up anything, but my understanding is that even her own defense doesn't dispute that the children died at her hands. Her defense is that "she should not be held accountable because she was overmedicated and suffering from postpartum psychosis."

    (I put that last part in quotes because it was copy/pasted verbatim from the news reporting.)

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    Parenthood is becoming a right wing wedge issue and some of us saw it from a mile away.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Wtf is this article doing why is it so fucking loaded? If you think a family destroyer should be behind bars you are right wing?

    Tiktok brainrot propaganda china's mouthpiece

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    the world is burning and all I want is to disappear into the woods to save myself and my family. I can't do that though, because the corporate entities that are driving society insane have purchased all the land.

    doesn't matter because those same corpofascists drove property values so high I couldn't afford it in my lifetime.

    silver lining, I won't have long to live because I'll likely die from food poisoning or some outbreak of a preventable disease.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    You can't do that because that won't save them or anyone. I understand the desire to escape, but other people are our way out of this. We only survive and thrive by working together, not by hiding ourselves away.

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