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[–] 27 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Two hundred million? They managed to double their kill count since 2000? Impressive, especially considering the lack of invading Nazis to mow down en masse for easy numbers.

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  • [–] 57 points 2 months ago (23 children)

    Capitalism kills 200 million people every 10 years.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    Yeah, but that's ok because a few hundred people get to have more money than god.

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  • [+] [S] -16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (13 children)

    The data you're citing would falsely indicate closer to 100mil every 10 years. Started a tally in 1990, its 2026 and it included millions of pre 90s deaths. Now whose inflating😉. The 420 million figure isn't a measured death toll caused by capitalism. About 90% comes from deaths associated with hunger and inadequate healthcare, and the site makes the additional causal assumption that those deaths are attributable to capitalism. Show me the counterfactual proving those people would have survived under a non-capitalist system. Especially when considering the billions of dollars capitalist countries give in aid internationally and domestically. Also, global child mortality has fallen massively during the same period the site is counting these deaths as capitalism's toll. The under-five mortality rate fell about 60% from 1990 to 2024, while the site attributes millions of ongoing deaths to capitalism.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Uh decreases in child mortality is a result from non-profit, state-driven public health initiatives and mass vaccination campaigns, publicly funded sanitation, and universal health protocols rather than market driven incentives. Credit belongs to public infrastructure, not private market distribution. You can thank socialism for this.

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    That's a hell of a stretch comrade

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Well The World Health Organization attributes reductions in child mortality primarily to public health interventions, such as expanded immunization programs, water treatment, and maternal health services, rather than market-driven healthcare.

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Yes exactly, that's what I'm saying.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    No that's not what you are saying. You're completely missing the distinction between market mechanisms and public infrastructure:

    You cited the drop in child mortality as proof that capitalism works.

    Especially when considering the billions of dollars capitalist countries give in aid internationally and domestically. Also, global child mortality has fallen massively during the same period the site is counting these deaths as capitalism’s toll. The under-five mortality rate fell about 60% from 1990 to 2024.

    But in reality: Declining child mortality is explicitly driven by non-profit, state-administered public health interventions, clean water infrastructure, mass vaccination programs, and public sanitation.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Show me the counterfactual proving those people would have survived under a non-capitalist system.

    Are you going to apply the same standard to your original claim? How many of the alleged 200 million would have survived under a non-communist system?

    Data's messy... I get it. The actual mechanics of tallying all of this don't matter quite as much as applying those rules consistently. It would be a bit unreasonable for you to ask for a counterfactual tally of deaths under capitalism if you're unable to provide one for deaths under communism.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    This figure seems to come from the Black Book of Communism except multiplied by 2.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Nah its from Death by Government: Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1900 by R.J. Rummel https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/998056.Death_by_Government

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Commies gotta pump those numbers up if they want to come even close to capitalism's death toll.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This is indeed, a shit post. They doubled the figure now!

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Person in Laos stubs toe

    ANOTHER 100 BILLION TRILLION DEAD UNDER COMMUNISM!

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  • [+] [S] -16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Sorry

    child in the Ivory Coast dies from slavery farming chocolate for foreign consumption

    ANOTHER 1 DEAD UNDER CAPITALISM!

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  • [+] [S] -10 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    See thats better! Instead of blaming the Ivory coast's labor practices blanket blame global capitalism. You're getting it!

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    As opposed to blanket blaming everything that happens under a socialist nation to reach the absurd metric of 200 million?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Hilarious that this source was just used to prove your bullshit and now you're trying to flip it around in your favor. Fucking loser 😂

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 2 months ago*

    You think I was using that source in my favor? Or that it proves literally anything? That's fantastic. Also, that last part was hurtful and I demand an apology. I'd also like you to work on understanding context. I believe you can be better if you work at it.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Things people post when the U.S. empire crumbles

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    Ain't most of the communist death nazis ? Are you guys crying out for nazis ?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    But the Soviets won the Space Race [if you don't count landing on the Moon!]

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Edgy Marxists: *whataboutism intensifies*

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    My favorite is when they try to spin any communist leader as a good guy. Stalin in particular.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I will down vote because you have said something that my Lemmy-Cult finds offensive and also say something about how you are capitalist pig monster.

    Communism has never been done poorly in control of shit people, it only ever bring joy and happy to all.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Edgy Marxists be like "Real communism has never been tried"

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