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[–] 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] [S] 24 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    The oil needs to stay in the ground though — everywhere, not just in Canada

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Ideally as much oil would remain in the ground as possible going forward, I'd agree.

    Until that ideal world shows up I'd rather it be us doing the extraction in a country with labour laws and environmental regulations

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    That sounds like a very reasonable argument but I fear everyone has such an excuse. The other sides have their own arguments. The poor will find it more just that they can get the corresponding funds. The richer without labour laws do not value them and will likely not care about the consequences but will findbthemselves worthy of the corresponding funds.

    Net result: everyone keeps pumping oil, the price is low, renewables are less attractive.

    The solution is to "just stop oil" regardless of the merits it has so it becomes increasingly attractive to find alternatives even in tougher sectors.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    environmental regulations

    LOL. Good one. Those toxic "ponds" at Fort Mac are lakes of VOCs. We ruin water and burn gas on every barrel of oil extracted,

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Fort Mac is surrounded for 500km in every direction by trees, and the fact that tailings ponds exist instead of the tailings simply being dumped directly into the Athabasca is as a direct result of the functioning of environmental regs. Ya dildo

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    What's the climate prediction of there being enough water yearly to power that hydro in the places they build?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    Most of the hydro is expansion of existing facilities. If anything , rising temps will increase these levels from the Northern snow pack.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    For as long as the snowpack exists.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    wish we'd stop calling hydro Green :( Vast CH4 emissions from the dam often put them with comparable or occasionally more emissions the coal, let alone the incredible environmental destruction weight with the construction.

    Small amounts of renewables and energy penury are the only solutions which is also why we won't solve this.

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