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[–] 57 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He dehumanizes them literally just as the Nazis did to the Jews. “They’re not even people,” he says.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Oh that Bibi does too. Hard to imagine that anybody could be worse than Netanyahu, but many are.

    It's what happens when instead of admitting that maybe you're the asshole here, you get pumped full of weaponry by the USA to continue the "good fight". For decades. And still they won't stop fighting back!

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    All of the polling I've seen suggests somewhere between 70-90% of the Israeli population support the genocide. This is even after widespread domestic reporting of beastiality, rape, and torture of "suspects", including children.

    The world's people need to understand that Israel is Nazi Germany, and they will never stop the genocide without major international intervention; possibly not without military intervention. The majority of the population are indoctrinated with extremest terrorist propaganda. They can not be reasoned with, or reached through empathy.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    That's the general attitude of a majority of Israelis, not just the Far Right.

    If you sit at a hipster café in Tel Aviv and start talking to a random person, 20 minutes later, this person, drinking a matcha latte and speaking perfect English, will start explaining to you that those [Palestinian] children will grow up to be terrorists, so it's okay to kill them.

    Andrey X Independent journalist and activist in Palestine

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Sure, but it's a timing issue. Just need to wait until the land is usurped and taken over by the invading forces. Then thirty to forty per night is acceptable. /s

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    Mischaracterizing this as religious fervor ignores reality. These people are power-hungry nationalists at best.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago*

    I hate how people try to paint it as "both sides fighting for their religion and holy land, look at these silly people" when in reality it's palestinians trying to defend themselves from fascist murderers backed by US government.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

    Your dismissal is empathetic but inaccurate.

    These people literally believe they’ve retaken the “holy land” (when Britain helped them invade Palestine in the mid 1900s).

    Many abrahamic worshippers believe these are the prophesized end times, especially in Israel.

    Religion is at the core of many conflicts in the Middle East, especially in the levant.

    When it’s not at the core, it’s still is in a way — because it tells people sacrificing their life is just a temporary speed bump in their existence, one which will make the road after it way more pleasant and rewarding.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    You must be from the US applying that lens and reducing the topic to such a simplistic lens that has been propagated by both the US and Israeli governments only.

    Many abrahamic worshippers believe these are the prophesized end times, especially in Israel.

    Nope, only US Evangelicalism specifically preaches this ridiculous type of world-ending prophecy.

    Zionism was an inherently secular movement, but to align all of the other Jewish organizations under their movement with a stronger argument, they've defined their goals to be "jewish" in identity AND religion. Otherwise an African location would have been a more serious option.

    It's not religious belief that is driving conflict in the middle east, it is religious tribalism (and of course imperialism). And there's a world of difference.

    Because someone could be secular and of that religion, but it doesn't mean that they would escape harm from other tribes or not have some patronage and loyalty to their tribe. Like Al-Assad in Syria, which as a country was religiously secular by law but was heavily biased towards the Aalawites.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    “It’s not religious belief it’s religious tribalism”

    Ahh yes, religious tribalism. Famously able to exist without religious belief.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, tribalism can exist without belief and can even be described as an ethnicity in itself (like Judaism). Unless you willingly glossed over the fact that someone can be secular but still have cultural/familial ties towards the tribe.

    It's not a very smart thing to oversimplify with thought terminating exercises.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You’re oversimplifying commitment.

    Religious belief is required for religious tribalism, otherwise it’s not religious tribalism, it’s some other form of tribalism.

    You said it was religious tribalism.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    The tribalism is the important part, not the religious. Just because your view is so narrow that you only see issues with one aspect of anything does not mean that it's the driving cause of every problem you see.

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  • He's a Nazi

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    And he did it in an environment where he expected it to be recorded and released to the general public. Basically indistinguishable from a Nazi.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Does it occur to these people that if they weren’t killing civilians with such glee, terrorist organisations might not want to kill them with so much passion

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    This here.

    But people like Ben Gvir will always say that Israel didn't start it, no sir, we just peacefully occupied their land and started living on it, and those Arabs started attacking us out of the blue!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Wow! THAT type of Language makes it REALLY HARD to CONTINUE giving them Billions of Dollars in US Taxmoney!

    -Hakeem Jeffries!

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Lovely how the Jews in the end turned into Nazis... I guess it says something about humanity, moreso about religion and dogmatic thinking

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Doubt. He's killed many more.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    nightly = every single night.

    That's 10 - 15 000 a year. Just Gaza. Not counting the West Bank and other areas Israel has laid its greedy eyes on.

    TBF to you, I have no idea how close this is to the actual numbers. Which is horrifying in itself.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    When I was a kid, I had no idea how someone like Erik Lensherr could become the kind of person he was. But now I think I know what this scene was talking about. And it makes my guts twist.

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