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[–] 42 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Oh yay, people who will be born illegally and have no legal status in any country. Basically slaves.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    huh, I wonder if they will decide to revoke citizenship for Native Americans like they seemed to be fine with when this was being argued before the court?

    think of all that Indian owned land that would be up for grabs... just sitting there, on top of unexploited mineral deposits and water rights claims... just waiting to be confiscated.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Wait, didn't SCOTUS shoot this down? Like, literally a month ago?

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  • [–] 44 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    They did, but the branch charged with enforcing the laws is basically saying fuck the law.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago*

    Who cares?

    Laws are about what we accept. They're not magic spells passed down by fucking gandalf. You get used to thugs with guns telling you what the rules are, the rules are what the thugs with guns say they are.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago

    Illegal shadow president Miller wrote that EO because he is a racist scumbag.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Reading through the executive order I see three categories of people it's trying to affect.

    1. "Terrorists". This is the category I expect to be used first, and as such is the one I expect to get struck down first.

    2. Diplomats and other individuals with diplomatic immunity. This one frankly I assumed already didn't get birthright citizenship, as my reading of the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause was that it was these people it was excluding.

    3. "Birth Tourists". This is the one that I have been exposed to the most fearmongering about. To be frank I am skeptical it happens often enough to matter, and the government would probably fare better simply denying access to the country anyone pregnant enough for it to come up. I also expect this part of the order to be struck down the moment an attempt is made to apply it.

    That's all assuming the order doesn't get suspended and subsequently struck down by the courts immediately, which is unlikely.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    The diplomats one is kinda insane. It says if EITHER parent works for a foreign government, including consulates. So if there was a man who worked at one, had a baby with an American woman, the baby wouldn't have citizenship. Potentially there could be an American single mom, with a child born in America, and she would be harboring an illegal alien. All without leaving America once.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    But if one of the parents has American citizenship, they would have the right to American citizenship through their parentage, and the executive order only purports to apply to children for whom neither parent has US citizenship.

    It would need to be a pretty narrow set of circumstances, and it would still be unconstitutional if applied to a child for whom one of the two parents could have had a child with birthright citizenship.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It says EITHER PARENT on multiple occasions.

    (b) either parent of that person is a foreign government employee, defined to include:

    (ii) persons employed by a foreign embassy or consulate who are nationals of that foreign country;

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    You're quoting the subsections but the section 2 as a whole, at the top, says:

    It is the policy of the United States that no executive department or agency shall issue documents recognizing United States citizenship to, or accept documents issued by State, local, or other governments or authorities purporting to recognize United States citizenship regarding, persons when neither parent of that person is a citizen and any of the following applies:

    It's a boolean "and," so in order for those provisions you've quoted to apply, the person must also not have a citizen parent.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    “Birth Tourists”. This is the one that I have been exposed to the most fearmongering about.

    Seriously, that there's wave after wave of pregnant women entering the US just to give birth, to create American Babies, then leave again? These poeople really have worms in their brains.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    He’ll lose this one too.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Yep. That's the framework they're going for, anyone left of Hitler is "antifa", and "antifa" can be jailed or executed or shipped overseas all without trial, their families destroyed and their possessions stolen by the thugs doing the "enforcement", right down to their shoes and the teeth from their mouths.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)
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    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America

    The first sentence is already rotten. No single person in a state of law should have that much power.

    It's probably standard verbiage since even before the Patriot Act, but I still don't like it.

    I was hoping I could get the tl;dr from the text, because I simply cannot listen to his voice rn, but I can't read this shit either.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Damn those babies acting as agents of foreign governments!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Oh look! Two micropenises in a room together.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Better explain it to him again, Tim... Looks like he nodded off there.

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    [–] 45 points 3 months ago

    This will be stricken down in court just like all the other dumb shit these pedos try to implement. It will cost us millions or billions in lost productivity before that happens. Hundreds of thousands will be negatively impacted and never see justice.

    Thanks to you constitution hating magat pedophiles, we will all be worse off yet again.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    How does trump make the miller puppet talk without moving his lips?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    He doesn't. Miller's effectively running the show now. Trump does the big, dumb, loud stuff, Miller's the guy actually running the fascism machine, sorta like Nancy Reagan for Reagan's second term.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Lobby on behalf of foreign government, huh?

    No way that could backfire...

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    Trump looking highly engaged, as usual

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    More waste we can't afford

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    This order allows thr federal government to block birthright citizenship for anyone who wither parent is determined to be terrorist, threatens terrorism, ir controlled by a terrorist, among other things. Who controls that definition? The federal government. How quickly is LGBT going to lis listed as a foreign terrorist organization? BLM? They can and will use this to deny citizenship to those against them. ICE and federal goons are already going so far against citizens, what happens when they strip us of our citizenship, for being Gay, or Hispanic, or voting Democrat....?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    I wonder if the Germans of 1930 looked at Goering or whoever the way I look at Steven Miller

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